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Nintendo Switch 2 account bans continue: warning after buying old copy of Bayo 3
- giingyui 1y ago>got flagged by big N Big N, really?
- giancarlostoro 1y agoIt's funny to me because I've never heard anyone refer to Nintendo as "Big N" there's a handful of other things referred to as Big N, Nintendo is not one of them.
- nope96 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_N https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_N "Nickname for Nintendo" I remember it being frequently used as far back as the 80s by Electronic Gaming Monthly
- opello 1y agoI replied in another thread [1] but this was the earliest thing I could find in online resources, but maybe your recollection would lead to something earlier: https://archive.org/details/run-magazine-87/page/n17/mode/1up?q=%22big+n%22+nintendo https://archive.org/details/run-magazine-87/page/n17/mode/1u... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44601355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44601355
- mvdtnz 1y agoAmerican racists don't get to claim exclusive rights to the letter N.
- kotaKat 1y ago"Big N" is an older term from Nintendo. Think the giant rotating "N" from the Nintendo 64 logo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-h4oLctQc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-h4oLctQc
- opello 1y agoI was trying to recall just how early "Big N" was a nickname for Nintendo, thinking it must have predated the Nintendo 64, but it took a bit of digging to find anything concrete: https://archive.org/details/run-magazine-87/page/n17/mode/1up?q=%22big+n%22+nintendo https://archive.org/details/run-magazine-87/page/n17/mode/1u... My naive first thought was "Captain N: The Game Master" but that wasn't quite "Big N." But it was fun to visit a bunch of old Nintendo-related articles.
- downrightmike 1y agoNintendo is adamant about destroying our reselling rights. I'll continue skipping this generation.
- phatfish 1y agoThis is about someone buying a used cart that had been dumped with the MIG Flash mod. I remember when this MIG mod got released people were saying buying used would now be a roulette as Nintendo can spot the duplicated cart when it is used online and blacklist your switch. Not sure how often it ended up happening, but at least once it seems from this article. Can't say I'm happy with how Nintendo is dealing with physical games, which means I'll need a really good reason to buy a Switch 2 myself. But Microsoft (and to a lesser extent Sony) are trying harder to kill physical sales and resale. Nintendo at least have some skin in the game as they have the largest percentage of physical sales compared to Microsoft/Sony.
- weinzierl 1y ago"Nintendo can spot the duplicated cart." I think they cannot spot the duplicated cart specifically, they just see the same "cart" (or key) used twice or multiple times at the same time and block it and possibly all devices involved. Not defending Nintendo, but I believe it is technically impossible for them to distinguish between the pirate and the victim.
- snickerdoodle12 1y agoThat means they're happy to punish the victim. The moral choice would be to punish neither in this case.
- isk517 1y agoYeah, if they were able to directly identified a duplicated cart then the easiest solution would be to update the console software to just not play duplicated carts. There shotgun approach is just biting them in the ass since the market has apparently already been flooded with duplicate carts and all they are doing is antagonizing people who believe they bought in good faith a legitimate game
- DrillShopper 1y agoSwitch 2 is a hard pass for me if Nintendo can brick on a whim
- surgical_fire 1y agoI'll handle it like I handled all other Nintendo consoles. I have one for legit use and one that I open up for, er, "alternative" content.
- taraindara 1y agoI’ll just give up on them altogether, and patiently wait for simulators I can use instead.
- surgical_fire 1y agoEh, I tend to like them. The Switch was the console I liked the most since my SNES days. I am far from heing against piracy, but I can pay, ao I do.
- giancarlostoro 1y agoAt that point just emulate it on a Steam Deck...
- surgical_fire 1y agoThe Steam Deck is more expensive though. And I mostly play the switch docked on the TV.
- giancarlostoro 1y agoThe Steamdeck is more expensive than buying two Nintento Switch 2s? Theres definitely a dock for the Steamdeck, and you get all your Steam games OOTB, in my case thats hundreds more games than any Switch.
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- chmod775 1y ago"Another man who adopted face-eating bird has his face eaten." I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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- andrepd 1y ago> Just stop giving money to companies that disrespect you, it is that simple, you DON't NEED the latest slop in your life Well I agree, you don't! Unfortunately, Nintendo produces not slop, but some of the most outstanding games I've ever played (plus a fair bit of slop too). Myself I don't mind to wait a few years and play on an emulator :)
- kulahan 1y agoYou don’t NEED video games at all, so it’s kinda moot to say that you don’t NEED the newest “slop”. It’s 100% an entertainment device which is completely unnecessary to life, just like computer games and phone games.
- turtlebro 1y agoNintendo has the best 1st party games. They care a lot about making games that are just fun. What does Valve have? Lootbox, gambling ridden, addictive dopamine juicers. Their offering sucks compared to Nintendo.
- freedomben 1y agoPortal and Half-life series will forever be some of my all-time favorite games, but yeah their newer stuff does seem to be not that great, though I'm very much a "play local" kind of guy
- npteljes 1y agoOf Valve's offerings, I like Steam the most.
- delecti 1y agoThe title is technically true, but leaves out the pretty significant context that he has openly used the MIG Switch, a device technically for "backups", but realistically for piracy. It's within the realm of possibility that you could get in trouble after buying used games which have been the source of pirated copies, but I don't believe that this guy's situation is an example of that happening. "Nintendo cuts off online access for console after guy uses tool made for piracy" is a less compelling title though.
- puppycodes 1y agoIs this IP troll energy pervasive in other Japanese tech companies or is Nintendo an outlier?
- mvdtnz 1y agoThis has nothing to do with patent trolling.
- puppycodes 1y agoSure... IP rather than patent ~ the vibe reminds me of patent trolls is what I mean. It's the evil of opressive copyright boots on the necks of people simply trying to enjoy themselves.
- throwasxy1784 1y agoAnimal Crossing will forever be a kids game that changed my life profoundly, and twice. Like most of us, Animal Crossing got me through Covid19. It was such a strange time to be locked in and spending 10 hours of every day working on collecting and manicuring your town. I remember my sister and I really bonded over this game, and there were many days where my mom and dad watched us play. But aside from a worldwide pandemic, I remember the first time Animal Crossing changed my perspective was when I was ~13? I had grown up with a GameShark on the Gameboy Color, but years later my next exposure to hacking was on the Nintendo DS playing online in Animal Crossing. Had some random person I made friends with on the Nintendo forums join our small group of friends to travel between towns. This person could do some impossible things! They'd dig rivers, spawn-in objects, and I still have a vivid memory of them making the game rain items on balloons like some festive meteor shower. I remember at that time you'd hear horror stories about hackers coming in and destroying peoples' towns. I did hear about abuse. I liked my (Ukrainian?) friend who would show up and help us make impossible towns with rivers that went in circles and showed us game assets we'd likely never have discovered on our own. I'm a PC gamer now, and I avoid consoles for the lock-in and control companies like Nintendo exert over its players. I understand why they do it but I feel like the experiences I had could never happen today. Whoever that was started me on a career of game modding and software development and I'm glad I got to meet them while it was possible.
- andrepd 1y agoThank you for sharing, both those resonate with me as well.
- praveenbatra 1y agoI have a fond memory of playing Mario Kart Wii online with my brother when I was a kid, and we ran into into a clearly hacking player who was just constantly spamming items, permanently invincible, etc. Thankfully hackers weren’t common when I played so it felt like seeing a unicorn in the wild.
- snickerbockers 1y agoI ditched them after the way they unceremoniously killed off the Wii U and 3DS Miiverse almost immediately after switch released. Miiverse was a massive part of Wii U's experience, so it was a pretty big punch to the gut when it suddenly went away in 2017. the main menu on Wii U is populated with dozens of randomly chosen miis running around and "discussing" games by displaying speech bubbles with Miiverse posts and it also integrated the Miiverse directly into several games. For the last 8 years that's all been replaced with generic, fake miiverse posts that are hardcoded into the firmware as a fallback for when the internet isn't working. Any game that previously had miiverse functionality lost it in summer 2017, less than five years after the Wii U's release. Super Mario Maker (September 2015) actually became nigh-unplayable less than two years after its release because it relied on Miiverse to share levels with other players. You can still make your own levels and not share them with anyone, but being able to share your levels online with other players was a significant part of that game. And that's on top of the fact that anything you buy from Nintendo's many online "eshops"/"shop channels" (there's literally a new online store+account system for every console!) will be destroyed within a decade because they don't think of you as a customer anymore once they have your money. BTW another great example of how much Nintendo screwed over their most loyal customers: prior to the switch's announcement, preview of Breath of the Wild had a minimap on the Wii U's controller but that was removed in the final release because they didn't want the Wii U version to have an advantage over the Switch port.
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- hard_times 1y agoWhy would someone in their right mind ever buy a Nintendo product?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoThey make excellent games?
- kulahan 1y agoCool hardware, generally stable experience, family friendly, lots of games which are enriching, the portability is awesome, it’s inexpensive, the games are fun, lots of exclusives… You couldn’t think of ANY of these?
- freedomben 1y ago> Cool hardware Eh, from what I've heard it's not really that great. Nintendo isn't really known for cutting edge tech, they're really more known for their first party offering. Steam Deck is a few years old now but still pretty impressive hardware, so I would call them about equal > generally stable experience Yes this is true (as long as you don't try to mod), though Steam Deck has been rock solid stable for me > family friendly Can you expand on this a bit? Other platforms have family controls and lots of family-friendly game options so I don't know where Nintendo out competes in this area. > lots of games which are enriching Aside from the first-party games, this also doesn't feel like a unique quality of Nintendo > the portability is awesome I'm assuming you mean physical portability? If so then yes, but also not unique to Nintendo. If you mean software portability like "can run games on other systems/platforms" then absolutely not. Steam is going to be way better at that. > it’s inexpensive Is it? Here at least the switch 2 is $500 (there is one on Amazon for $450 but it is "invite only"), compared with Steam Deck which starts at $400 but goes up to $650 for the top model. It seems like again Nintendo is just not unique in price. > the games are fun, lots of exclusives… The exclusives are IMHO really the only reason to get a Nintendo. If you really like their first party games then you have no choice. Everyone I know who bought a Switch (and will buy Switch 2) did it for this reason. To me personally the exclusivity is a major turn-off
- MYEUHD 1y ago> To be clear, if this happens to you, the physical cartridges that you own will remain playable, without updates, and some previously downloaded digital games may remain accessible. What about game-key cards? (the cartridges that don't contain the game, but a license to download it) This could reduce the library of games you can play, if they don't let you download the games you purchased.
- extraduder_ire 1y agoSwitch 2 carts have not been cloned yet, so there is no way to know how nintendo would react.
- gs17 1y ago> Other social media users were quick to reassure Nelson of two things. Firstly, hardware bans received for using second-hand game carts that have been cloned by tools like MIG Flash are not uncommon. I think the author and I have different definitions of "reassure". > And, probably more importantly, Nintendo is receptive to owners who can provide corroborating evidence that they are innocent of Nintendo-flavored piracy. Unless you, say, borrowed a game from a friend who you didn't know bought it from someone who ripped it. Right now it seems they're pretty lax about the "evidence" you bought it, but I'm sure they'll get stricter fast.
- wil421 1y agoThought about this situation buying used games for the kids and me off Facebook. It’s terrible because I used to trade and buy nes/gameboy and other systems games as a kid. It allowed me to play more games but sometimes you’d get a game that sucked really bad. Modding is one thing but piracy is another. Nintendo despises both.
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- highwaylights 1y agoIt’s pretty clear from the article that the ban is due to using a defeat device (which he posted publicly about trying out) and very likely has nothing to do with the game he bought.
- gs17 1y agoNo, there are plenty of people who have reported being banned over used games. The article cites another article where the same thing happened (and no, it's not a pirate pretending to be innocent, Nintendo reversed the ban).
- ChrisRR 1y agoNo it genuinely is. Their reddit post history was clearly asking for help with running pirated games
- CrackerNews 1y agoCan this claim be verified?
- highwaylights 1y agoYes, the article states that he was discussing using a defeat device that Nintendo have been actively banning for.
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- aussieguy1234 1y agoI don't own a switch or switch 2, but if your account gets banned, does this simply stop you using the online services or does it brick the console?
- xdfgh1112 1y agoThe former
- privatelypublic 1y agoNo. Its the latter in reality. You can't get HOS updates, so nothing new is available.
- xdfgh1112 1y agoYour existing games still work, you can install cfw and support any possible game. You just can't play online.
- privatelypublic 1y agoNo. Most people are NOT going to be able to install cfw.
- h4kunamata 1y agoPeople buy these consoles even knowing about Nintendo practices, lawsuit after lawsuit worse than Apple. I'm sorry but I've no sympathy, it's because of people that keep buying broken games and accepting companies policies that the gaming industry is in a shit show status right now.
- phendrenad2 1y agoYou have to give Nintendo credit, they won't give up on trying to solve the unsolvable piracy issue. They're willing to devalue their consoles (meaning their own bottom-line) by crashing game resale value in a mad attempt to stop piracy.
- npteljes 1y agoThey are not a position where they need to pay huge attention to this - "Nintendo’s Switch 2 is the fastest-selling game console of all time" https://www.theverge.com/news/685162/nintendo-switch-2-sales-figures-record https://www.theverge.com/news/685162/nintendo-switch-2-sales...
- phendrenad2 1y agoConsumer reactions to bad products are often delayed. People will keep buying something until they have a bad experience personally, and then they will switch to something else. Famously you can see this any time a movie franchise releases a bad sequel. People will go to see it, but they will stop watching that franchise from then on.
- helij 1y agoSwitch 2 is amazing.
- npteljes 1y agoI sincerely doubt that Nintendo will let the ball drop so much that it impacts sales significantly. They have had numerous occasions when they have been heavy handed with anti-consumer reactions or making decisions that end up hurting customers (like how they never actually fixed the joycon drift), and yet here we are. I'm not holding my breath that boycotts (such as the ones voiced in this thread for example) are actually affecting Nintendo, or will in the future. Legislation is our only choice.
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- _imnothere 1y agoWhile Nintendo does make good games such as Animal Crossing, their behavior makes me find it hard to support them with my money. I bought first-gen Nintendo Switch with the faith that maybe I should support the devs for doing nice work, but after getting into the community, I found myself regretting giving my money to wrong hands, it may not be much, but money is money.
- 5350-uiop-1130 1y agofunny how the internet "features" allows nintendos lawyers grubby hands right into your living room
- ChrisRR 1y agoFor anyone who hasn't been following this story, this is misinformation. The user had been playing pirated games on their MIG Switch and when they got banned for it, tried to blame a pre-owned copy of Bayonetta
- extraduder_ire 1y agoIs there a breakdown of the timeline anywhere? Everything I've read so far about this happening has been hearsay/speculation.