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You're gonna have a hard time using anything right now if you want to avoid services run in a country not spending on a war somewhere.
by threetonesun 1y ago
You're gonna have a hard time using anything right now if you want to avoid services run in a country not spending on a war somewhere.
- cosmicgadget 1y agoIt's not hypocritical to set the bar at a given place, like an ongoing war of territorial expansion and child abduction run by an autocrat that won't be replaced until his death. One with near complete popular support.
- skrtskrt 1y agoThis could easily refer to any of the despots the US backs
- cosmicgadget 1y agoIs that some sort of gotcha? By all means, boycott those countries as well. Support from the US certainly is not a free pass.
- skrtskrt 1y agoFollow the logic and boycott the US as well! Now you have zero viable search engines
- cosmicgadget 1y agoCan you give me a line-by-line breakdown please? For example, I believe term limits are still a thing.
- lostlogin 1y agoI have plenty of reservations about the US, but the invasion of the Ukraine is not in the same category as anything the US is up to.
- dcow 1y agoSo sure, you are.
- lostlogin 1y agoCould you give an example of US actions that are comparable to the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
- dcow 1y agoAtomic bomb. Middle east. Vietnam.
- lostlogin 1y agoVietnam I agree with - but it would be weird to protest that now. The atomic bomb is more complicated and even weirder to protest now. ‘Middle East’ is a broad and also hard to compare. Lots of US policy I disagree with but is it like the Ukraine invasion?
- mbarria 1y agoSupport of Israel is as despicable (if not more so) as support of Russia.
- Ar-Curunir 1y agoAre you talking about the United States? Like, yes, the Russian regime is awful, but how are you looking around at the the world and not applying the same standards to the US?
- cosmicgadget 1y agoCan we just stop at the "yes the Russian regime (and oligarchy and substantial popular support) is awful" part? Because that is really all you need to reasonably boycott Yandex. Is it good to be ideologically consistent? Absolutely! Is it required? Not if you're aiming to reduce the amount of evil in the world. Redirecting discussion about Russia's shittiness to a criticism of the US is a dumb propaganda tactic that a lot of people here are engaging in. And many others are swallowing. I'm happy to talk about the US or NATO or Israel, just not with the partisans who for some reason assume I fully support any of the above.
- xigoi 1y agoThe point is, if you boycott Yandex because of Russia, then in order to be morally consistent, you should also boycott Google and Bing. At that point, what search engines do you have left?
- cosmicgadget 1y agoI was pretty explicit about saying that moral consistency is better but there is a valid position that is inconsistent but still aims to reduce human suffering. And that handwaves the equivalence of the US and Russia as well as their relationships with corporations.
- Ar-Curunir 1y agoYou are literally living through a fascist takeover of the United States, and said corporations are happily participating as long as they get a share of the pie. I know that HN is an American website, and it is difficult for people in America to view the US negatively, but outside the US you will find a lot of people that don't really see much difference between Russia attacking Ukraine, and the US bombing the living fuck out of Afghanistan and Iraq, or the complete support that US (and its corporations!) have been providing to Israel in its genocide in Gaza. It is okay to want to boycott one and not the other, but one cannot then turn around and scold others for not engaging in that boycott on a moral basis.
- tomjen3 1y agoThats not at all what he said. All countries pay for their militaries. Russia invaded Ukraine and is actively comitting genocide. There is a difference.