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Is this because Linux became so good or because Windows 11 is so terrible? I guess a bit of both.

by bboygravity 1y ago

IshKebab 1y ago
Windows 11 is great if you install the IoT LTSC version. Better than Windows 10.
- fsflover 1y ago
  Except all those perfectly working devices which aren't supported for no reason, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43977038 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43977038
  - IshKebab 1y ago
    9 years of updates it not at all out of line with Mac, iOS, Android etc: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/some-macs-are-getting-fewer-updates-than-they-used-to-heres-why-its-a-problem/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/some-macs-are-gettin... Maybe a few more years would have been good but I can't really blame Microsoft for requiring modern hardware support eventually.
    - fsflover 1y ago
      They don't allow to install their next OS on capable hardware. This is not fine.
      - IshKebab 1y ago
        Neither does Apple or Google. I'm not saying it's great but singling out Microsoft here when they're actually the best option out there (apart from Linux) seems silly.
        fsflover 1y ago
        I'm not "singling out Microsoft". I reply about Windows in a topic about GNU/Linux. So I compare them. > when they're actually the best option out there (apart from Linux) Most people on HN disagree with you, judging by comments here.
CuriouslyC 1y ago
Pretty sure it's because Windows has gotten worse. I ditched windows recently because it was flagging bit torrent software as malware and deleting it (utorrent, qbittorrent, deluge, all directly from official sources), and when I tried to turn the setting off in the control panel it wouldn't allow me to. A few minutes later it popped up an advertising notification for a F2P windows store game. Linux hasn't necessarily gotten better, sadly. My install was unusable due to video issues, I had to boot a recover console to fix it. I also had to fix some issues with X desktop effects glitching after waking from suspend, making the desktop environment nearly unusable. Otherwise, Linux performs a lot better on my system than Windows.
- saintfire 1y ago
  Obviously everyone has their own experience but any Arch(-based) distro I've used has just worked out of the box following a simple Calamares install. I've had nothing but bad experiences with Debian installs and I'm curious if this is where a lot of issues are coming from when people switch to Mint or Ubuntu when they hear it's the "beginner distro"
- pndy 1y ago
  > I ditched windows recently because it was flagging bit torrent software as malware and deleting it W10 once removed CCleaner from my system because it was an older version. I kept it that way because it was the last version at the time that didn't come with telemetry.

Is this because Linux became so good or because Windows 11 is so terrible? I guess a bit of both.

IshKebab 1y ago

Windows 11 is great if you install the IoT LTSC version. Better than Windows 10.

fsflover 1y ago
Except all those perfectly working devices which aren't supported for no reason, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43977038 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43977038
- IshKebab 1y ago
  9 years of updates it not at all out of line with Mac, iOS, Android etc: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/some-macs-are-getting-fewer-updates-than-they-used-to-heres-why-its-a-problem/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/some-macs-are-gettin... Maybe a few more years would have been good but I can't really blame Microsoft for requiring modern hardware support eventually.
  - fsflover 1y ago
    They don't allow to install their next OS on capable hardware. This is not fine.
    - IshKebab 1y ago
      Neither does Apple or Google. I'm not saying it's great but singling out Microsoft here when they're actually the best option out there (apart from Linux) seems silly.
      - fsflover 1y ago
        I'm not "singling out Microsoft". I reply about Windows in a topic about GNU/Linux. So I compare them. > when they're actually the best option out there (apart from Linux) Most people on HN disagree with you, judging by comments here.

CuriouslyC 1y ago

Pretty sure it's because Windows has gotten worse. I ditched windows recently because it was flagging bit torrent software as malware and deleting it (utorrent, qbittorrent, deluge, all directly from official sources), and when I tried to turn the setting off in the control panel it wouldn't allow me to. A few minutes later it popped up an advertising notification for a F2P windows store game. Linux hasn't necessarily gotten better, sadly. My install was unusable due to video issues, I had to boot a recover console to fix it. I also had to fix some issues with X desktop effects glitching after waking from suspend, making the desktop environment nearly unusable. Otherwise, Linux performs a lot better on my system than Windows.

saintfire 1y ago
Obviously everyone has their own experience but any Arch(-based) distro I've used has just worked out of the box following a simple Calamares install. I've had nothing but bad experiences with Debian installs and I'm curious if this is where a lot of issues are coming from when people switch to Mint or Ubuntu when they hear it's the "beginner distro"
pndy 1y ago
> I ditched windows recently because it was flagging bit torrent software as malware and deleting it W10 once removed CCleaner from my system because it was an older version. I kept it that way because it was the last version at the time that didn't come with telemetry.