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Human biology allows your body to get sick and die from bacteria and viruses, sometimes floating in the air. Human biology let's you get a cut on your hand and

Human biology allows your body to get sick and die from bacteria and viruses, sometimes floating in the air. Human biology let's you get a cut on your hand and die from infection. That was a thing for most of history. Do you think it's weird we don't just let people suffer from those things as well?

nappingcat 1y ago
> Human biology allows your body to get sick and die from bacteria and viruses, sometimes floating in the air. Not in 99.9% of cases. It's such a twisted disrespect to millions of years of evolution of the immune system. If you had no innate immune system, even being a bubble boy in a hospital with the most advanced equipment could keep you alive only for so long. It's like saying "police lets people get murdered".
Aeolun 1y ago
You say that as if having children is a disease. If you are old enough to have a child, you are very likely old enough to successfully raise one. Otherwise the human race wouldn’t exist.
- tstrimple 1y ago
  Having a child under a certain age has all the health risks of a serious disease putting the life of the mother and child at much higher risks. Why shouldn't it be treated as such? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5965834/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5965834/
  - Aeolun 1y ago
    A 5% chance of your child dying when you give birth at age 15 and lower seems pretty reasonable to me? At least I’d have expected those number to be far higher. At 16-17 it’s 4% and at 18-19 it’s 3%, which makes it even better, but 19 out of every 20 children surviving longer than 28 days is pretty good.
    - tstrimple 1y ago
      > A 5% chance of your child dying when you give birth at age 15 and lower seems pretty reasonable to me? You're fucking insane if you'd sign your child up for something that has a 5% chance of death. Literally insane. Gross. Disgusting.
- kazinator 1y ago
  I smell an evolutionary argument here that is fallacious. For eons, tribes/villages raised children; it was not left entirely to the young mothers.
coldtea 1y ago
Yes, I think our cavalier use of antibiotics is a real problem, that could wipe a huge number of people out through the development of populations with huge immune deficiencies and uber-bacteria. Similarly for antiviral resistance. Plus the need for such drugs itself is overplayed, most of the time the human body can take care of an infection itself. Things like clean water, hand washing, etc, helped for the rest many times over than drugs do.
- Larrikin 1y ago
  Have you documented your turning down of antibiotics, vaccines, and other medicines so that others can see how tough you are and how modern medicine isn't needed? Have you encouraged your parents and grandparents to do the same? Have you denied your children modern healthcare as well?

nappingcat 1y ago

> Human biology allows your body to get sick and die from bacteria and viruses, sometimes floating in the air. Not in 99.9% of cases. It's such a twisted disrespect to millions of years of evolution of the immune system. If you had no innate immune system, even being a bubble boy in a hospital with the most advanced equipment could keep you alive only for so long. It's like saying "police lets people get murdered".

Aeolun 1y ago

You say that as if having children is a disease. If you are old enough to have a child, you are very likely old enough to successfully raise one. Otherwise the human race wouldn’t exist.

tstrimple 1y ago
Having a child under a certain age has all the health risks of a serious disease putting the life of the mother and child at much higher risks. Why shouldn't it be treated as such? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5965834/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5965834/
- Aeolun 1y ago
  A 5% chance of your child dying when you give birth at age 15 and lower seems pretty reasonable to me? At least I’d have expected those number to be far higher. At 16-17 it’s 4% and at 18-19 it’s 3%, which makes it even better, but 19 out of every 20 children surviving longer than 28 days is pretty good.
  - tstrimple 1y ago
    > A 5% chance of your child dying when you give birth at age 15 and lower seems pretty reasonable to me? You're fucking insane if you'd sign your child up for something that has a 5% chance of death. Literally insane. Gross. Disgusting.
kazinator 1y ago
I smell an evolutionary argument here that is fallacious. For eons, tribes/villages raised children; it was not left entirely to the young mothers.

coldtea 1y ago

Yes, I think our cavalier use of antibiotics is a real problem, that could wipe a huge number of people out through the development of populations with huge immune deficiencies and uber-bacteria. Similarly for antiviral resistance. Plus the need for such drugs itself is overplayed, most of the time the human body can take care of an infection itself. Things like clean water, hand washing, etc, helped for the rest many times over than drugs do.

Larrikin 1y ago
Have you documented your turning down of antibiotics, vaccines, and other medicines so that others can see how tough you are and how modern medicine isn't needed? Have you encouraged your parents and grandparents to do the same? Have you denied your children modern healthcare as well?