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Made a comment, it then asked me to sign up and couldn't be bothered. The comment was: make the Firefox containers work in private mode. In Safari private m

by v5v3 1y ago

Made a comment, it then asked me to sign up and couldn't be bothered. The comment was: make the Firefox containers work in private mode. In Safari private mode. Each tab has no knowledge of another (e.g. log into Gmail and then open a new tab and go to Gmail and you won't be signed in). Firefox doesn't have this tab level isolation. Also offer equivalent of safari's lockdown mode. So images and site features capable of loading malware etc are blocked by default.

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_lvbh 1y ago
> The comment was: make the Firefox containers work in private mode. My solution to this is having multiple Firefox profiles where the default one clears all history/cache/etc automatically upon closing (default in Librewolf). It's not technically private mode so containers work.
weikju 1y ago
temporary containers [0] > disposable containers which isolate the data websites store (cookies, storage, and more) from each other Granted, they're not in private broswing mode just normal mode, but same effect [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...
- v5v3 1y ago
  Yes, that's the one I want fixing, and possibly moving from extension to feature. Why would you create a privacy tool, and then not offer it in private mode. Makes no sense. (You can setup Firefox so it's permanently in Private Mode and clears history and data on exit - as per Libre comment above -,which is how I have it set)
CjHuber 1y ago
I might be the only one but I'm quite annoyed that Safari's incognito mode works like this. I WANT it to have knowledge of all the other incognito tabs of the same window. Only when I make a new incognito window, it should be a new container. Pretty interesting how preferences can vary, because this bothers me everytime I use incognito mode on safari and think, can this not just work like in Firefox.
- v5v3 1y ago
  In the old days logging in twice would bother me as is have to type in a password, but now with password manager and fingerprint/face scan it's low effort. It's very handy for sites where you may have more than account
  - wkat4242 1y ago
    > It's very handy for sites where you may have more than account For that Firefox's container tabs are a much handier option as you can stay logged in and also open new tabs that are already logged in. It has colours to tell apart which tab is part of which container
- lxgr 1y ago
  On desktop OSes, I definitely also prefer that behavior. I wonder if Safari behaves like that for consistency with iOS, where there isn't any hierarchy above tabs, so it would be a choice between no separation at all or sandboxing each tab individually?
GuB-42 1y ago
I actually prefer it the way it is now. For me, private mode is effectively an extra temporary profile that is full featured, but wiped once the last window is closed. I usually don't need more than one. But I understand that other people have other needs. It can be very useful for developers for instance. Make it an option, maybe.
- joshuaturner 1y ago
  A "private tab" feature in addition to "private window" could be a useful, if potentially confusing
  - Macha 1y ago
    If you're on desktop, the "temporary containers" extension does this.
- kevincox 1y ago
  I see both. I wouldn't want every tab to be separate but I occasionally want to have more than one independent private profile at a time. It would be nice if I could do this. Any sort of ephemeral container tabs option would probably satisfy this option and could maybe even remove most of my use of private browsing if I could just open ephemeral containers in an otherwise regular window.
  - xeonmc 1y ago
    How about per-window private sessions?
    - kevincox 1y ago
      That would be limiting if I can't have multiple windows of one private session. (Although admittedly this is something I do quite rarely)
  - eddythompson80 1y ago
    firefox --profile $(mktemp -d) --private-window or wrap it to delete the temp dir after firefor process exits.
wslh 1y ago
Shameless, deprecated plug: I built a very hackish Firefox extension to do that about 17 years ago [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBkB-Yp-zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBkB-Yp-zM
dietr1ch 1y ago
I still feel that the isolation is backwards. Instead of having me to split containers, ask me to merge things like google.com and youtube.com, but by default keep every domain isolated.
EasyMark 1y ago
They have to ask for sign ups, otherwise they'd get blasted by bots spewing whatever.

by v5v3 1y ago

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_lvbh 1y ago

> The comment was: make the Firefox containers work in private mode. My solution to this is having multiple Firefox profiles where the default one clears all history/cache/etc automatically upon closing (default in Librewolf). It's not technically private mode so containers work.

weikju 1y ago

temporary containers [0] > disposable containers which isolate the data websites store (cookies, storage, and more) from each other Granted, they're not in private broswing mode just normal mode, but same effect [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

v5v3 1y ago
Yes, that's the one I want fixing, and possibly moving from extension to feature. Why would you create a privacy tool, and then not offer it in private mode. Makes no sense. (You can setup Firefox so it's permanently in Private Mode and clears history and data on exit - as per Libre comment above -,which is how I have it set)

CjHuber 1y ago

I might be the only one but I'm quite annoyed that Safari's incognito mode works like this. I WANT it to have knowledge of all the other incognito tabs of the same window. Only when I make a new incognito window, it should be a new container. Pretty interesting how preferences can vary, because this bothers me everytime I use incognito mode on safari and think, can this not just work like in Firefox.

v5v3 1y ago
In the old days logging in twice would bother me as is have to type in a password, but now with password manager and fingerprint/face scan it's low effort. It's very handy for sites where you may have more than account
- wkat4242 1y ago
  > It's very handy for sites where you may have more than account For that Firefox's container tabs are a much handier option as you can stay logged in and also open new tabs that are already logged in. It has colours to tell apart which tab is part of which container
lxgr 1y ago
On desktop OSes, I definitely also prefer that behavior. I wonder if Safari behaves like that for consistency with iOS, where there isn't any hierarchy above tabs, so it would be a choice between no separation at all or sandboxing each tab individually?

GuB-42 1y ago

I actually prefer it the way it is now. For me, private mode is effectively an extra temporary profile that is full featured, but wiped once the last window is closed. I usually don't need more than one. But I understand that other people have other needs. It can be very useful for developers for instance. Make it an option, maybe.

joshuaturner 1y ago
A "private tab" feature in addition to "private window" could be a useful, if potentially confusing
- Macha 1y ago
  If you're on desktop, the "temporary containers" extension does this.
kevincox 1y ago
I see both. I wouldn't want every tab to be separate but I occasionally want to have more than one independent private profile at a time. It would be nice if I could do this. Any sort of ephemeral container tabs option would probably satisfy this option and could maybe even remove most of my use of private browsing if I could just open ephemeral containers in an otherwise regular window.
- xeonmc 1y ago
  How about per-window private sessions?
  - kevincox 1y ago
    That would be limiting if I can't have multiple windows of one private session. (Although admittedly this is something I do quite rarely)
- eddythompson80 1y ago
  firefox --profile $(mktemp -d) --private-window or wrap it to delete the temp dir after firefor process exits.

wslh 1y ago

Shameless, deprecated plug: I built a very hackish Firefox extension to do that about 17 years ago [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBkB-Yp-zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBkB-Yp-zM

dietr1ch 1y ago

I still feel that the isolation is backwards. Instead of having me to split containers, ask me to merge things like google.com and youtube.com, but by default keep every domain isolated.

EasyMark 1y ago

They have to ask for sign ups, otherwise they'd get blasted by bots spewing whatever.