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Isn’t that the point of having a government with laws and regulation… to allow the majority to bully specific undesirable minority groups into submission? For
by MichaelZuo 1y ago
Isn’t that the point of having a government with laws and regulation… to allow the majority to bully specific undesirable minority groups into submission?
For some things it’s even a worldwide consensus, e.g. any groups with a desire to acquire large amounts of plutonium (who don’t belong to a preapproved list).
There’s even a strong consistent push to make it ever more inescapable, comprehensive, resistant to any possible deviation, etc…
- amelius 1y agoNo, you've got that backwards. In a functioning democracy respecting the rule of law, the government with its laws and regulation are the school teachers who are putting the bullies into detention.
- MichaelZuo 1y agoBased on what argument? Just writing your opinion down doesn’t seem relevant to real life government organization. I don’t see how there could be “school teachers” above the majority of congressman or regulatory decision makers. The very existence of pork filled bills thousands of pages long and byzantine regulations suggest that couldn’t possibly be true.
- anton-c 1y agoDoes every democracy have that problem with bills? I thought it was mostly a US issue.
- amelius 1y agoIf your government is corrupt then it doesn't make sense to say that the concept of having a government is dead and that corporations are the solution.
- MichaelZuo 1y agoHow does this relate to the prior comment?
- amelius 1y agoIt relates to it because you chose an example specific to US government which we all know is not a good example.
- MichaelZuo 1y agoHow do you know it’s not applicable elsewhere? e.g. Plenty of countries have huge bills that no one fully reads and huge numbers of regulations.
- amelius 1y agoThere will always be something to complain. People are also sick and tired of rules in the AppStore. Or the fact that when their Apple/Google/whatever account is unilaterally blocked they have no recourse. At least with a government there are some checks and balances. Yes, some governments are more trustworthy than others. Doesn't mean the concept is bad.
- MichaelZuo 1y agoCan you write down the actual argument? Repeating your opinion isn’t going to lead to any productive discussion.
- aspenmayer 1y agoFrequently, the bullies are on the student council, and because they get more face time with the administration and are seen as part of the establishment by the same, admins are reluctant to do more than a slap of the hand, but appearances must be kept up with.
- harimau777 1y agoMost people want to live in a society that maximizes positive freedom, or some balance of freedom and prosperity. In those societies, it is considered legitimate for the government to use force to stop people whose actions prevent members of society from having positive freedom/prosperity. Of course that is a very simplified description. In practice, most societies promote a balance between positive and negative freedom, recognize some limits on the government's ability to use force, recognize some degree to which people can choose to act in ways that don't promote positive freedom/prosperity, etc.