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Marc Andreesen says universities will 'pay the price' for DEI
- davidw 1y agoGuy who owes his fortune to public funding of research wants to tear it all down.
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- electricboots 1y agokneecapping corps for being racist seems like a reasonable use of the legal system all things considered, no?
- dzhiurgis 1y agotouche
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- 123yawaworht456 1y ago>white folks wanted Black characters, but not actual Black people. based
- gjsman-1000 1y ago… by reverse discrimination in many companies. Changing words doesn’t change practice. Inventing words like “unhoused” doesn’t fix “homeless.”
- UncleMeat 1y agoAndreesen says that its been 60 years of "discrimination" against white people. My alma mater didn't even admit women in 1965. He says that immigration is "discrimination." The world he pines for is a world of explicit and massive discrimination against women and non-whites. Andreesen is calling for the NSF to be destroyed. What does that have to do with DEI? The Trump administration is demanding that universities expressly hire conservatives as faculty and admit conservatives as students. Where's Andreesen's concern about this? If Andreesen gives a shit about merit, why'd a16z hire Daniel Penny when his entire "qualification" is killing somebody on the subway?
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- DoctorOW 1y agoA friend of mine involved with the Coast Guard lemented someone who was fired in Trump's DEI purge. She was hard working, and well respected by those who worked for her, but she was a woman so she was deemed "without merit". The problem I have with the anti-DEI stuff is that they have no means of proving merit. They're just seeing someone who is a minority and imagining a more qualified white guy.
- ethbr1 1y agoThe truth here is that bureaucracies are shit at implementing nuance -- they'll do DEI poorly; they'll do anti-DEI poorly. The original point of merit exams wasn't that they were objective, but that they were outside bureaucratic control, which ended up producing better results than the status quo. Anti-DEI especially is being implemented in such a rapid manner that it's no surprise incompetent people are making bad calls, because nobody will question them if it's "anti-DEI". Such is the great harm of strong beliefs + groupthink: they justify bad decisions by covering them as compliant decisions.
- davidw 1y agoAnd it's all for some really ugly reasons https://bsky.app/profile/sifill.bsky.social/post/3ltrkbtyam22c https://bsky.app/profile/sifill.bsky.social/post/3ltrkbtyam2...
- arp242 1y agoI remember when the video first came out and EVERYONE was up in arms about it. Left, right, centre, far-right. People normally ranting about Deep State Democratic Nazi Communist Satan cult led by extreme-left Muslim Barrack HUSSEIN Obama were up in arms about it. Everyone. That's because it showed, at best, a wilful shocking disregard for someone in clear distress not just in the heat of the moment, but calmly for ten long minutes. It's absolutely unreal how politicised it became.
- davidw 1y agoYeah, to your point, Mitt Romney marched in a George Floyd protest.
- cameldrv 1y agoYeah specifically NCSA where he and Eric Bina developed Mosaic was created by an NSF grant.
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- dahart 1y agoI wonder why Andreesen doesn’t suggest public funding of higher education, instead of fighting DEI. If education was free for all Americans, it would achieve what he’s arguing for and it would undermine and make DEI efforts completely moot. As far as I can tell, we can afford to fund university for all entirely on the extra income taxes that people with degrees make above people without degrees, at least according to income data studies I’ve read from the Fed. (I’m honestly curious why our country hasn’t come to this conclusion already - it certainly looks today like funding higher education for all would increase GDP and reduce the tax burden.)
- hollerith 1y agoEven better: college degrees for everyone
- chomp 1y agoThat’s what the parent commenter is saying, if everyone has the same opportunity to go to college and get a degree, then colleges don’t need to pick and choose students. Right now, only people with means can do to college, and so universities wind up balancing the scales.
- dahart 1y agoYes, that’s definitely what I’m suggesting. Did I accidentally imply something else? I feel like taking the whether someone can afford college off the table would just immediately end this DEI argument and give Americans a boost. Why isn’t Adreesen fighting for that?
- rbanffy 1y agoA much needed boost. China has about 200 million STEM graduates, which is the entire US workforce. > Why isn’t Adreesen fighting for that? We can only infer the best interests of the country and its people don’t align with his own plans.
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- jmclnx 1y agoThe title should be "The US will pay the price for the insane policies of Trump". I have a name for this guy, but I do not want to get banned :)
- jaybrendansmith 1y agoIt's very simple in my opinion. The discrimination we have in the US is all about wealth, not diversity. If we shift all DEI to simply focus on those who don't come from wealth, we will have solved discrimination without resorting to subjective racial or ethnic or sexual qualifications.
- drcongo 1y agoThis is low key genius.
- ethbr1 1y agoThat's been a sub-strain of post election US Democrat thinking: that it should be more about poor vs rich and less about identity. Unfortunately, there's a large cottage industry that hitched their careers / thought leadership to identity and are fighting it tooth and nail. Imho, it's pretty obvious and simple. Two poor folks have more in common with each other these days than the poor with the rich, whatever combination of other identities.
- const_cast 1y agoIt's simple, but not that simple, because poverty and outcomes are weighed and distributed by race. Meaning, if we do implement this sort of DEI, we will be helping black people WAY more than white people. And conservatives don't like that, that's their original complaint with DEI.
- ethbr1 1y agoDon’t look at it from the perspective of leaders —- look at it from the perspective of voters. Poor voters could care less which party actually helps more minorities, as long as they believe they’re going to be helped. The modern GOP’s greatest sleight of hand was convincing poor voters they’d be helped by tax cuts for the rich.
- rbanffy 1y agoWhen you do that you’ll realize it is also about identity, about how some ethnic and sexual minorities are discriminated against and end up with fewer economic opportunities than the white-cis-male-christian norm, whose privilege is encoded not in law, but in the fabric of our societies.
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- rbanffy 1y agoI see a very civil discussion here. It might be worth to unflag and give this discussion a second chance.
- jrflowers 1y agoSeeing as the only form of “DEI” that existed in the education system 60 years ago was court-enforced desegregation, this guy has written a whole lot of words to convey his position that black people shouldn’t be allowed in schools with white people