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Tell HN: uBlock Origin on Chrome is finally gone
The latest version of Chrome (138) removes Manifest v2 and all extensions that rely on it.
- dossy 1y agoThere's still a way to load it under Chrome 138, but when Chrome 139 lands, that's when MV2 will finally be removed. https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate/mv2-deprecation-timeline https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate... > Just as before, Enterprises using the ExtensionManifestV2Availability policy will continue to be exempt from any browser changes until at least June 2025. Starting in June, the branch for Chrome 139 will begin, in which support for Manifest V2 extensions will be removed from Chrome. Unlike the previous changes to disable Manifest V2 extensions which gradually rolled out to users, this change will impact all users on Chrome 139 at once. As a result, Chrome 138 is the final version of Chrome to support Manifest V2 extensions (when paired with the ExtensionManifestV2Availability key). You can find the release information about Chrome 138 and 139, include ChromeOS's LTS support, on the Chromium release schedule
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- krackers 1y agoIn current chromium source, it seems still possible to force manifest v2 extensions with `kAllowLegacyMV2Extensions` feature flag? https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:chrome/browser/extensions/manifest_v2_experiment_manager.cc https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:chr... This however is a good time to export any extension preferences, because once it's removed you won't be able to access them.
- ranger_danger 1y agoI think uBO Lite works just fine for 99% of users.
- angrydev 1y agoYeah, I switched a while ago and it’s has 0 impact on my browsing.
- adithyassekhar 1y agoSame. I didn't even enable complete blocking just default one. I'm not too concerned about invisible trackers, I use meta products daily. Just the visible ads.
- mparramon 1y agoIt’s the principle. When they’ve shown they’ll jank one extension because it doesn’t align with their business model, they’ve shown they’ll jank any extension in the future as they see fit. I’m voting with my feet.
- TiredOfLife 1y agoThey didn't yank an extension.
- queenkjuul 1y agoThey yanked many, technically
- Jiahang 1y agoso i use adguard in chrome now
- ruslan_sure 1y agoadguard is a way to go. their app kills these ads perfectly
- oktoberpaard 1y agoYou might as well use uBlock Origin Lite. The point is that all of these options are less powerful because of the limitations of manifest v3. Instead of downgrading the effectiveness, they’ve opted to release a separate less powerful option so that it’s clear to the end user that it’s less effective than what was available with manifest v2.
- Beijinger 1y agoSocial Fixer is gone too. What to do?
- aembleton 1y agoInstall Firefox and add Social Fixer on there.
- xanth 1y agoIs edge also following suit?
- p_ing 1y agoIn the past Microsoft said they would. It would be a large engineering effort to preserve Manifestv2
- rasz 1y agoFor microsoft its a joke to support. We are talking about _one hook_ into Chrome internals for declarativeNetRequest to work.
- p_ing 1y agoI hear this and I also hear the lack of experience with enterprise (let alone commercial) software development. Five lines of code still requires one dev, one PM, and one manager. It still requires security reviews, audits, and so on. There are no free lines of code in a commercial code base.
- rasz 1y agoAs I said its a joke to MS, they are a $3 trillion company. Not to mention all that AI replacing developers they keep talking about :)
- p_ing 1y agoApple is a $3tn company and can't do anything-AI. I mean, revenue totals aren't a measure of capability, will, or want.
- rasz 1y agoThere is a substantial difference between developing state of the art hot R&D technology and maintaining one js hook into C codebase, especially considering its only this one webRequest.onBeforeRequest binding we are interested in thats being degrade/blocked/deleted and not the underlying codebase https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44544266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44544266 The problem here is $17B ad revenue MS is earning https://www.emarketer.com/content/microsoft-s-ad-revenues-grew-21--q4-but-tiktok-deal-would-double-them https://www.emarketer.com/content/microsoft-s-ad-revenues-gr...
- bigbuppo 1y agoAdvertising company forcibly disables software that stops the spread of malware. Why would they do that?
- j45 1y agoUsers clicks feed the creation of value
- const_cast 1y agoThe plausible deniability reason is that Manifest V2 gave way too much power to extensions, which is true. ... except that we already execute remote JavaScript on our browsers constantly. And we do it, usually, unconsentually. Versus extensions, which are a deliberate thing you need to install.
- xtracto 1y agoThat's what i find stupid of current browsers. When Firefox was first created by "stripping" all the bloat from Netscape navigator, the idea was that Extensions would allow end users to add optional functionality . It put the user in control of their browser experience. There should be a browser that doesn't assume their users are stupid. I want to turn off CORS I want to be able to modify the DOM and inject whatever the heck I want.
- gargron 1y agoFirefox is still a great browser with probably the best devtools.
- rrgok 1y agoCan you expand on the "best devtools" comparing to Chrome's?
- ews 1y agoMoved to firefox and I am glad I did, I want to use a browser that respects my privacy choices
- tombert 1y agoI left Firefox a few months ago because there was a bug in their shader cache, so a lot of stuff was laggy. I was willing to put up with until I got a 360 camera and videos were playing at like 2 fps. This was about six months ago, it’s possible that it’s been fixed, I haven’t checked. I am using Brave right now, which seems fine. I have no idea if it actually respects privacy but they at least claim it does.
- zulban 1y agoEvery browser has occasional big issues. If you haven't seen one yet in (insert browser name here) then you just haven't been around long enough.
- tombert 1y agoSure, but there is a limit to bullshit I'm willing to put up with. When that bullshit level is past its threshold I don't think you can blame someone for jumping ship.
- nar001 1y agoThat doesn't solve the issue of ManifestV2 being removed though, Brave will have it removed at the same time as Chrome, when it's pulled from the code base
- dotcoma 1y agoBrave have not promised to continue to support uBlock Origin ?
- charcircuit 1y agoBrave has a built in ad blocker.
- Springtime 1y agoAmong the neater features of the full-featured uBO is its ability to load userscripts from external sources. While there's much talk about uBlock Origin with Mv2 other losses include the last remaining Javascript managers for Chromium like ScriptSafe that have no Mv3 counterpart.
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- notgrimm 1y agoI fucking love how they are not just deleting it from my addons, but FORCING ME TO DELETE. They just dropped pop up "uhm.... it's unsafe, so... WE RECOMEND TO DELETE IT", and then won't let me to turn it on again.
- KevinMS 1y agoHN was so hyped when chrome came out. Pushing it hard. A few people were saying, um guys, chrome is made by a company that sells ads, this is not going to work out well.
- mkozlows 1y agoChildren who were born when Chrome came out can vote in the midterms next year. If your prediction takes as long to mature as a newborn baby, it's maybe _too_ prescient.
- loktarogar 1y agoIt's been a good 16 years, though.
- KevinMS 1y agothat was part of the plan
- wting 1y agoChrome launched in an era where IE didn't stop the gazillion pop ups and crashed pretty often losing dozens of windows, before tabbed browsing and with no restore. Firefox was a resource hog due to memory fragmentation. Google was also the company that espoused, "Do no evil" and contributed a bunch to open source. A lot has changed since then.
- queenkjuul 1y agoEveryone was hyped when Chrome came out. This is hard to believe but the world was different 20 years ago
- whoisyc 1y agoI remember Firefox crashing on me nearly daily around the time Chrome came out. I didn’t need anyone to push Chrome on me. Chrome was just simply technologically superior. But of course today there is little reason to not use Firefox.
- franczesko 1y agoBrave?
- howdyhowdy 1y agoLadybird ladybird
- charcircuit 1y agoLadybird doesn't support ublock origin either, nor does it even allow for ad blockers extentions like Chrome still does.
- al_borland 1y agoI’m excited to see what Ladybird becomes, but it’s not exactly ready to be a daily driver.
- chis 1y agoHas anyone made the switch to firefox? I’d be sad to lose my nice google profile integration to chrome and the password manager. And whenever I try Firefox it feels a little bit jankier and slower, but that might just be in my head
- trelliscoded 1y agoYes. Firefox has its own password manager and profile system. Once I copied the chrome settings to firefox, I closed chrome and rarely open it these days.
- cagey 1y agoDitto. I installed CrunchBang++ Linux[1] on a couple of out-of-support 4GB-RAM Chromebooks about 6 months ago, and they (with Firefox (w/shared account) and uBlock Origin) basically continue to fill the Chromebook role (my morning before-work lazy web-surfing guided by Inoreader) with aplomb: occasionally I go a little too tab-crazy (or open one too many YouTube tabs) and it freezes, but simply restarting (holding the power button down until it reboots) gets me going again. I save+close excess tabs to OneTab and life goes on. Extremely utilitarian. [1] https://www.crunchbangplusplus.org/ https://www.crunchbangplusplus.org/
- mkozlows 1y agoYou will lose the password manager, but switch to 1Password -- it's way better anyway. Also, if you use Android, Firefox Mobile, with ad-blocking there, is the real killer advantage of Firefox.
- Sammi 1y agoNo, switch to something open source like bitwarden or you'll just end up locked into a bad situation again.
- techjamie 1y agoI recommend Vaultwarden as a bitwarden server. It's pretty quick to set up and completely open source. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden
- ruslan_sure 1y agoGoogle. The Advertising Company.
- eviks 1y agoAnd unfortunately not a single great alternative as the better chromium forks don't plan to support it either...
- thatsnotmepls 1y agoStrange, still enabled and working for me. Chrome 138.0.7204.101 uBlock Origin 1.65.0
- queenkjuul 1y agoIt dies in 139
- roshin 1y agoI tried to move to brave, but I'm really disappointed in it. It frequently crashes, and it's slow to create new tabs/windows. The only reason I stick to it is due to the browser having ad block built in
- 5555624 1y agoWhat OS? I use it under Windows 10 and it's never crashed or been slow. I';ve never had more than six tabs open, though.
- kyleee 1y agoYeah this report is a bit hard to believe, I have hundreds of tabs open in brave constantly and they have a native tab suspend/hibernate that works great for tabs you haven’t accessed in a while. And my favorite small feature ‘force paste’ for all those inputs with janky paste blocking “security” features
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 1y agoSeems everyone is releasing a browser nowadays. (Not literally, this is a figure of speech.) Perhaps uBlock/uMatrix needs its own browser. Mozilla is "all in" on surveillance advertising. From its press releases and strategic initiatives (for lack of a better term), it appears to believe online advertising is essential for the www to exist. Whereas, it has never stated that "ad blockers" are essential for the www to exist.
- EasyMark 1y agoYeah but it's always a fork of firefox or chrome. I have seen nothing to indicate they are not all in on surveillance advertising. They are looking into "anonymous group advertising" by interest, now can someday reverse engineer that and figure out that you like boutique spicy pickles? maybe? I have my doubts.
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- creamyhorror 1y agoTry Waterfox (if not Firefox), and UBlock Origin Lite if staying on Chrome.
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- bicepjai 1y ago@dang this looks like a spam. I saw 2 more posts
- tiberius_p 1y agoLibrewolf works fine for me. Comes with uBlock Origin installed.
- RandyOrion 1y agoNot to defend chrome or chromium, there is a way for chrome users to use manifest v2 in version 138 and above. See the link below. https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/discussions/2977#discussioncomment-13593599 https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/discussions/29... For me, I choose not to manually update my ungoogled chromium to version 138 and above.
- 28304283409234 1y agoI moved to, and pay for, Vivaldi. I want to be the customer.
- philonoist 1y agowhat service by Vivaldi did you pay for?
- spwa4 1y agoNo worries! We'd only ever be discussing this if governments hadn't provided a way to access their services, most of which are only available on the internet. Can you imagine just how stupid it would be for governments not to provide another software for accessing it? If they didn't provide something, internet giants would be able to dictate their only means to communicate with citizens. Influence elections. Even lock out governments from their own countries. How moronic would a government need to be to risk that happening? Plus it would be unrealistically cruel as well, because it would of course deny access to the poor. So no worries. Governments care about people. That's what they keep saying. So they have surely prevented something like this from happening, or provide an alternative. Right?
- zerr 1y agoThis means Chrome is finally dead among most of the tech-savvy users.
- alienbaby 1y agoyup, switched to firefox this morning
- niuzeta 1y agoMade a switch to FF/Brave. I did try to embrace ads for a bit but that attempt expired within minutes.
- tim333 1y agoIt also seems to muck up bypass-paywalls and my clearly reader extension. I wonder how long I can stay on the current version?
- gloosx 1y agoso why not staying at 137? what are we missing?
- puppycodes 1y agohas uBlock considered making a browser? Just curious.
- throwaway328 1y agoNyxt Browser is about to bounce back hard (with Allah's blessing), after a major rewrite to use Electron. I wonder what this means for them...
- zparky 1y agoI need to dedicate some time to learning nyxt, it seems really enjoyable to use.
- throwaway328 1y agoThe pre-release AppImages that John Mercouris is working hard on are getting verrry solid, if you get an hour I recommend a play around :) https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/releases https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/releases
- WaltPurvis 1y agoFWIW, these instructions allow you to re-enable uBlock in Chrome 138. A temporary fix, but I needed a temporary fix so I could export my hundreds of custom filters (so I can load them into uBlock in Firefox). https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1itw1bz/end_of_support_for_ubo_on_chrome_chromium/ https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1itw1bz/end_o...
- p_ing 1y agouBlock Origin Lite is still there
- mattl 1y agoFirefox is still there, but Mozilla is adding AI slop to it too. I’d love to see an extension to disable all that stuff, or ideally get rid of it and make it an extension
- compootr 1y agoZen browser is pretty minimal in terms of bloat carried from FF https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41303974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41303974
- jksflkjl3jk3 1y agoJust use LibreWolf on desktop and IronFox on Android. They basically strip out all the anti-privacy, anti-user "features" from Firefox.