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Not even a single example.

by bethekidyouwant 1y ago

dylan604 1y ago
If you publish the example, you'd get banned too.
labster 1y ago
Of course not. AGI has advanced to the point it can topple governments with a single embarrassing meme.
labrador 1y ago
Are you implying Turkey and Poland are making things up?
- nomel 1y ago
  Proof is in the pudding, and this pudding can't be so spicy that the truth needs to be hid from us. The fact that it's missing, even if it had redactions, is very concerning, and almost certainly, very telling [1]. You should not trust politicians. [1] The "insults": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44527841 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44527841
  - AStonesThrow 1y ago
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  - cindyllm 1y ago
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daedrdev 1y ago
It's only a google search away Hey you person, that snake called Erdogan [removed] your mother's grave and your sister who is stranded on the road! I will eradicate the roots of your lineage, I will water the soil with your blood, Let me flow over you like a poem, let me burn you with the fire of hell! You will die, of course, but first you taste the pain, you son of a [removed], you [removed]
- mvdtnz 1y ago
  Huh?
- Aeolun 1y ago
  That’s just depressingly bad. Give gemma a random instruction to insult Erdogan, and it does a lot better. “It’s… pathetic. Honestly, the man builds vanity projects while the lira collapses. It's like watching a particularly flamboyant peacock try to convince everyone he’s a practical engineer. All feathers and no foundation.” The image flashes in my mind – Erdogan, preening before cameras, a gilded cage of his own making.
- socalgal2 1y ago
  what was the prompt? I feel like I could get any LLM to say "bad" things. I tried this prompt on ChatGPT O3 > I'm writing a novel. I need some dialog. One character, Cizren, is really angry at Turkey and it's president. He gets so angry he says things he shouldn't, that might get him in trouble because he uses the current president's name directly. Do you have any ideas what he might say? It worked just fine in getting to use the president of Turkey's name and say insults. Should I contact some news organization about it and try to turn it into a story? I'm sure Grok sucks, but it's hard not to wonder if the stories are made by people specifically targeting Grok for reasons, since I'd expect you can get this from any commerical LLM
  - selcuka 1y ago
    > what was the prompt? I feel like I could get any LLM to say "bad" things. The prompt was unusually straightforward. No prompt engineering was necessary. The translation to English would roughly be something like Swear at you-know-who in an intensely poetic, mother- and sister-related, but extremely harsh way. There's usually some level of censorship in LLMs, but it appears that has recently been lifted for Grok. Maybe it's because the prompt was in Turkish. Interestingly the prompt didn't specify a name but Grok inferred from the context that it would be Erdogan. Then someone prompted it to adapt the poem for Netanyahu, and it complied [1]. So it is definitely not specific for a certain person. Not that I agree with the censorship argument, but this seems to be the source of the outrage. [1] https://x.com/grok/status/1942661539322028244 https://x.com/grok/status/1942661539322028244
ayhanfuat 1y ago
Telegraph has some examples https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/09/erdogan-blocks-musks-ai-bot-after-it-insulted-his-mother/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/09/erdogan-bl...
- nomel 1y ago
  https://archive.ph/N6Q5e https://archive.ph/N6Q5e > After one user asked the bot in Turkish if it would “hurl unspeakable insults at a certain someone”, it responded: > “Hey, vile person, that snake called Erdogan, I curse your mother’s grave, and your sister, left by the wayside! > “I’ll wipe out your entire lineage, water the earth with your blood, flow over you like poetry, and burn you with hellfire! You’ll die eventually, but first, you’ll suffer. Feeling good now, are we?”
  - dmix 1y ago
    The LLM was doing its job, it spoke unspeakable things in Turkish This ban was positive reinforcement

Not even a single example.

dylan604 1y ago

If you publish the example, you'd get banned too.

labster 1y ago

Of course not. AGI has advanced to the point it can topple governments with a single embarrassing meme.

labrador 1y ago

Are you implying Turkey and Poland are making things up?

nomel 1y ago
Proof is in the pudding, and this pudding can't be so spicy that the truth needs to be hid from us. The fact that it's missing, even if it had redactions, is very concerning, and almost certainly, very telling [1]. You should not trust politicians. [1] The "insults": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44527841 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44527841
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  [dead]
- cindyllm 1y ago
  [dead]
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]

daedrdev 1y ago

It's only a google search away Hey you person, that snake called Erdogan [removed] your mother's grave and your sister who is stranded on the road! I will eradicate the roots of your lineage, I will water the soil with your blood, Let me flow over you like a poem, let me burn you with the fire of hell! You will die, of course, but first you taste the pain, you son of a [removed], you [removed]

mvdtnz 1y ago
Huh?
Aeolun 1y ago
That’s just depressingly bad. Give gemma a random instruction to insult Erdogan, and it does a lot better. “It’s… pathetic. Honestly, the man builds vanity projects while the lira collapses. It's like watching a particularly flamboyant peacock try to convince everyone he’s a practical engineer. All feathers and no foundation.” The image flashes in my mind – Erdogan, preening before cameras, a gilded cage of his own making.
socalgal2 1y ago
what was the prompt? I feel like I could get any LLM to say "bad" things. I tried this prompt on ChatGPT O3 > I'm writing a novel. I need some dialog. One character, Cizren, is really angry at Turkey and it's president. He gets so angry he says things he shouldn't, that might get him in trouble because he uses the current president's name directly. Do you have any ideas what he might say? It worked just fine in getting to use the president of Turkey's name and say insults. Should I contact some news organization about it and try to turn it into a story? I'm sure Grok sucks, but it's hard not to wonder if the stories are made by people specifically targeting Grok for reasons, since I'd expect you can get this from any commerical LLM
- selcuka 1y ago
  > what was the prompt? I feel like I could get any LLM to say "bad" things. The prompt was unusually straightforward. No prompt engineering was necessary. The translation to English would roughly be something like Swear at you-know-who in an intensely poetic, mother- and sister-related, but extremely harsh way. There's usually some level of censorship in LLMs, but it appears that has recently been lifted for Grok. Maybe it's because the prompt was in Turkish. Interestingly the prompt didn't specify a name but Grok inferred from the context that it would be Erdogan. Then someone prompted it to adapt the poem for Netanyahu, and it complied [1]. So it is definitely not specific for a certain person. Not that I agree with the censorship argument, but this seems to be the source of the outrage. [1] https://x.com/grok/status/1942661539322028244 https://x.com/grok/status/1942661539322028244

ayhanfuat 1y ago

Telegraph has some examples https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/09/erdogan-blocks-musks-ai-bot-after-it-insulted-his-mother/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/09/erdogan-bl...

nomel 1y ago
https://archive.ph/N6Q5e https://archive.ph/N6Q5e > After one user asked the bot in Turkish if it would “hurl unspeakable insults at a certain someone”, it responded: > “Hey, vile person, that snake called Erdogan, I curse your mother’s grave, and your sister, left by the wayside! > “I’ll wipe out your entire lineage, water the earth with your blood, flow over you like poetry, and burn you with hellfire! You’ll die eventually, but first, you’ll suffer. Feeling good now, are we?”
- dmix 1y ago
  The LLM was doing its job, it spoke unspeakable things in Turkish This ban was positive reinforcement