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Particularly useful if you’re an antisemite or white supremacist, it seems.

by archagon 1y ago

falleng0d 1y ago
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- dataangel 1y ago
  It's not word salad, Grok was literally posting unironic praise for Hitler two days ago.
  - mgoetzke 1y ago
    LLMs can be baited, small changes to system prompts can cause this quite unexpectedly just like many big companies found out by accident. we fix it and move on.
    - grafmax 1y ago
      First off, if you change something as an engineer you are responsible for testing it before deploying it to production. Besides they intentionally changed the system prompt to make it more politically incorrect. (It’s because they hold a unnuanced ideology that conflates political incorrectness with objectivity - thus it’s logical that Grok is going to slide into racism.) In any case their stupidity on multiple fronts doesn’t deserve a free pass.
  - Treegarden 1y ago
    It was but so were other models before. OP said the twitter to grok feature is a good use case and I agree. Its great for fact checking. For example it will debunk conspiracy theories and misinformation tweets in general. I even asked it about its own hitler meltdown and it rejected its own words (so I must have asked it after they fixed it).
  - Levitz 1y ago
    It was also stating that the life of a single Jew is worth more than that of two million non-Jews. LLMs can occasionally say crazy stuff, that is not surprising, and I think we should do better than leaning into the outrage machine. The opposite is how we end up with ridiculous guardrails, like having ChatGPT say that it would rather allow all of humanity to perish than to say the N word, a statement which is orders of magnitude worse, only more publicly palatable.
moralestapia 1y ago
While you're not wrong, I feel like they don't make up a significant chunk of @grok's queries. People usually talk about other topics.
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
  This however is a significant chunk of @grok's queries if you only experience it through scrolling Apple News
sebzim4500 1y ago
Until very recently, it was alt-right people getting frustrated that they couldn't get grok to confirm their delusions. They had tricks to get it to confirm their priors (esp. asking leading questions and demanding a single word response) but they didn't work that well.
- Larrikin 1y ago
  When is very recently? I didn't recall any time where Grok wasn't making up answers about how great Elon is and how awful Jewish people, black people, liberals, etc are. It's usually the first test of any model they put out and always gives a ridiculous answer
  - PhunkyPhil 1y ago
    Recently as in the last few days when it started calling itself "MechaHitler" and scapegoating jewish people after the engineers let Elon ramble for the system prompt.
k__ 1y ago
I had the impression, Grok wasn't on Elon's side when it answered my questions or explained tweets.
- thrance 1y ago
  For a time, yes. Which is why they "fixed it" and it is now calling itself "MechaHitler" and praising Hitler and Musk for "being so based".
  - Auracle 1y ago
    That lasted for literal hours before they changed it back. It was clearly just shitposting in a 4chan style way.
    - thrance 1y ago
      Oh then nevermind. Grok only went full white supremacist twice after all, so no need to worry. Seriously, when will we be allowed to express concern over Musk's insane conducts? What will it take? Him doing a nazi salute on TV? Oops, already happened. Also, fuck that "it's just trolling bro" excuse. You don't get to praise Hitler and the Holocaust and then hide behind "shitposting" after. Own it you scummy nazi pieces of shit.
      - Auracle 1y ago
        Do you feel the same about Cory Booker's "nazi salute?" With the right prompt I'm sure PC-less Grok would have gone full black supremacist as well. Apparently at the same time it was blaming stuff on jews it was also saying the life of 1 jew was worth millions of other lives. The point is people's reactions to this sort of thing are colored by what's brought up and repeated in social media. Reddit went freaking crazy after Elon Musk did his quasi-nazi salute. Absolute crickets when Cory Booker did the same thing. I don't know everything that PC-less Grok said but I'm sure plenty of it went against your narrative.
        1y ago

Particularly useful if you’re an antisemite or white supremacist, it seems.

falleng0d 1y ago

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dataangel 1y ago
It's not word salad, Grok was literally posting unironic praise for Hitler two days ago.
- mgoetzke 1y ago
  LLMs can be baited, small changes to system prompts can cause this quite unexpectedly just like many big companies found out by accident. we fix it and move on.
  - grafmax 1y ago
    First off, if you change something as an engineer you are responsible for testing it before deploying it to production. Besides they intentionally changed the system prompt to make it more politically incorrect. (It’s because they hold a unnuanced ideology that conflates political incorrectness with objectivity - thus it’s logical that Grok is going to slide into racism.) In any case their stupidity on multiple fronts doesn’t deserve a free pass.
- Treegarden 1y ago
  It was but so were other models before. OP said the twitter to grok feature is a good use case and I agree. Its great for fact checking. For example it will debunk conspiracy theories and misinformation tweets in general. I even asked it about its own hitler meltdown and it rejected its own words (so I must have asked it after they fixed it).
- Levitz 1y ago
  It was also stating that the life of a single Jew is worth more than that of two million non-Jews. LLMs can occasionally say crazy stuff, that is not surprising, and I think we should do better than leaning into the outrage machine. The opposite is how we end up with ridiculous guardrails, like having ChatGPT say that it would rather allow all of humanity to perish than to say the N word, a statement which is orders of magnitude worse, only more publicly palatable.

moralestapia 1y ago

While you're not wrong, I feel like they don't make up a significant chunk of @grok's queries. People usually talk about other topics.

fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
This however is a significant chunk of @grok's queries if you only experience it through scrolling Apple News

sebzim4500 1y ago

Until very recently, it was alt-right people getting frustrated that they couldn't get grok to confirm their delusions. They had tricks to get it to confirm their priors (esp. asking leading questions and demanding a single word response) but they didn't work that well.

Larrikin 1y ago
When is very recently? I didn't recall any time where Grok wasn't making up answers about how great Elon is and how awful Jewish people, black people, liberals, etc are. It's usually the first test of any model they put out and always gives a ridiculous answer
- PhunkyPhil 1y ago
  Recently as in the last few days when it started calling itself "MechaHitler" and scapegoating jewish people after the engineers let Elon ramble for the system prompt.

k__ 1y ago

I had the impression, Grok wasn't on Elon's side when it answered my questions or explained tweets.

thrance 1y ago
For a time, yes. Which is why they "fixed it" and it is now calling itself "MechaHitler" and praising Hitler and Musk for "being so based".
- Auracle 1y ago
  That lasted for literal hours before they changed it back. It was clearly just shitposting in a 4chan style way.
  - thrance 1y ago
    Oh then nevermind. Grok only went full white supremacist twice after all, so no need to worry. Seriously, when will we be allowed to express concern over Musk's insane conducts? What will it take? Him doing a nazi salute on TV? Oops, already happened. Also, fuck that "it's just trolling bro" excuse. You don't get to praise Hitler and the Holocaust and then hide behind "shitposting" after. Own it you scummy nazi pieces of shit.
    - Auracle 1y ago
      Do you feel the same about Cory Booker's "nazi salute?" With the right prompt I'm sure PC-less Grok would have gone full black supremacist as well. Apparently at the same time it was blaming stuff on jews it was also saying the life of 1 jew was worth millions of other lives. The point is people's reactions to this sort of thing are colored by what's brought up and repeated in social media. Reddit went freaking crazy after Elon Musk did his quasi-nazi salute. Absolute crickets when Cory Booker did the same thing. I don't know everything that PC-less Grok said but I'm sure plenty of it went against your narrative.
      - 1y ago