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Grok's Twitter integration has legitimately been one of the best use cases I've seen. Just being able to ask Grok right within the tweet about context or meanin

by spaceman_2020 1y ago

Grok's Twitter integration has legitimately been one of the best use cases I've seen. Just being able to ask Grok right within the tweet about context or meaning of any jargon is very useful.

archagon 1y ago
Particularly useful if you’re an antisemite or white supremacist, it seems.
- falleng0d 1y ago
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  - dataangel 1y ago
    It's not word salad, Grok was literally posting unironic praise for Hitler two days ago.
    - mgoetzke 1y ago
      LLMs can be baited, small changes to system prompts can cause this quite unexpectedly just like many big companies found out by accident. we fix it and move on.
      - grafmax 1y ago
        First off, if you change something as an engineer you are responsible for testing it before deploying it to production. Besides they intentionally changed the system prompt to make it more politically incorrect. (It’s because they hold a unnuanced ideology that conflates political incorrectness with objectivity - thus it’s logical that Grok is going to slide into racism.) In any case their stupidity on multiple fronts doesn’t deserve a free pass.
    - Treegarden 1y ago
      It was but so were other models before. OP said the twitter to grok feature is a good use case and I agree. Its great for fact checking. For example it will debunk conspiracy theories and misinformation tweets in general. I even asked it about its own hitler meltdown and it rejected its own words (so I must have asked it after they fixed it).
    - Levitz 1y ago
      It was also stating that the life of a single Jew is worth more than that of two million non-Jews. LLMs can occasionally say crazy stuff, that is not surprising, and I think we should do better than leaning into the outrage machine. The opposite is how we end up with ridiculous guardrails, like having ChatGPT say that it would rather allow all of humanity to perish than to say the N word, a statement which is orders of magnitude worse, only more publicly palatable.
- moralestapia 1y ago
  While you're not wrong, I feel like they don't make up a significant chunk of @grok's queries. People usually talk about other topics.
  - fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
    This however is a significant chunk of @grok's queries if you only experience it through scrolling Apple News
- sebzim4500 1y ago
  Until very recently, it was alt-right people getting frustrated that they couldn't get grok to confirm their delusions. They had tricks to get it to confirm their priors (esp. asking leading questions and demanding a single word response) but they didn't work that well.
  - Larrikin 1y ago
    When is very recently? I didn't recall any time where Grok wasn't making up answers about how great Elon is and how awful Jewish people, black people, liberals, etc are. It's usually the first test of any model they put out and always gives a ridiculous answer
    - PhunkyPhil 1y ago
      Recently as in the last few days when it started calling itself "MechaHitler" and scapegoating jewish people after the engineers let Elon ramble for the system prompt.
- k__ 1y ago
  I had the impression, Grok wasn't on Elon's side when it answered my questions or explained tweets.
  - thrance 1y ago
    For a time, yes. Which is why they "fixed it" and it is now calling itself "MechaHitler" and praising Hitler and Musk for "being so based".
    - Auracle 1y ago
      That lasted for literal hours before they changed it back. It was clearly just shitposting in a 4chan style way.
      - thrance 1y ago
        Oh then nevermind. Grok only went full white supremacist twice after all, so no need to worry. Seriously, when will we be allowed to express concern over Musk's insane conducts? What will it take? Him doing a nazi salute on TV? Oops, already happened. Also, fuck that "it's just trolling bro" excuse. You don't get to praise Hitler and the Holocaust and then hide behind "shitposting" after. Own it you scummy nazi pieces of shit.
        Auracle 1y ago
        Do you feel the same about Cory Booker's "nazi salute?" With the right prompt I'm sure PC-less Grok would have gone full black supremacist as well. Apparently at the same time it was blaming stuff on jews it was also saying the life of 1 jew was worth millions of other lives. The point is people's reactions to this sort of thing are colored by what's brought up and repeated in social media. Reddit went freaking crazy after Elon Musk did his quasi-nazi salute. Absolute crickets when Cory Booker did the same thing. I don't know everything that PC-less Grok said but I'm sure plenty of it went against your narrative.
        1y ago
saagarjha 1y ago
@grok is this true?
- neilalexander 1y ago
  A good 30% of Twitter is now just this verbatim.
  - ACCount36 1y ago
    The average quality of a Twitter post went up then.
    - theshrike79 1y ago
      Until Grok went full nazi :D Then it came back to normal
LorenDB 1y ago
I think the Grok button that is present on tweets is the best way to ask Grok about tweets. Tagging @grok just spams others' timelines with useless AI responses. The Grok button lets you keep it private.
- skarz 1y ago
  Personally I think having the option to make grok's response public can be helpful, much like a community note. Let's face it, on reddit or Facebook or YouTube the first thing people do now is go straight to the comments for context or feedback. As they say, the real answer is always in the comments.
- v5v3 1y ago
  Public as the Ai response is often used to mediate two opposing submissions of facts. A neutral 3rd party.
  - fwip 1y ago
    I like the idea, but it can't possibly be neutral. Both philosophically, and more concretely, it's run by Elon Musk, whose idea of neutrality is waaay to the right of the US Overton window. Not only is it trained on X data, which has swung dramatically rightward since his takeover, he makes sure that it generates a steady stream of edgy opinions and hot takes. See his just-removed-after-public-outcry instruction to disregard "political correctness", which immediately resulted in it calling itself MechaHitler - or his previous instructions to try to cry about reverse racism in South Africa.
dzhiurgis 1y ago
It still struggles to grok large threads. Hope FB brings something like this tho. Might be especially useful to summarize/search big groups. People used to cry how private groups and slack killed forums and hidden info, but I think we have a chance with tools like this.
v5v3 1y ago
@AskPerplexity is also on x

Grok's Twitter integration has legitimately been one of the best use cases I've seen. Just being able to ask Grok right within the tweet about context or meaning of any jargon is very useful.

archagon 1y ago

Particularly useful if you’re an antisemite or white supremacist, it seems.

falleng0d 1y ago
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- dataangel 1y ago
  It's not word salad, Grok was literally posting unironic praise for Hitler two days ago.
  - mgoetzke 1y ago
    LLMs can be baited, small changes to system prompts can cause this quite unexpectedly just like many big companies found out by accident. we fix it and move on.
    - grafmax 1y ago
      First off, if you change something as an engineer you are responsible for testing it before deploying it to production. Besides they intentionally changed the system prompt to make it more politically incorrect. (It’s because they hold a unnuanced ideology that conflates political incorrectness with objectivity - thus it’s logical that Grok is going to slide into racism.) In any case their stupidity on multiple fronts doesn’t deserve a free pass.
  - Treegarden 1y ago
    It was but so were other models before. OP said the twitter to grok feature is a good use case and I agree. Its great for fact checking. For example it will debunk conspiracy theories and misinformation tweets in general. I even asked it about its own hitler meltdown and it rejected its own words (so I must have asked it after they fixed it).
  - Levitz 1y ago
    It was also stating that the life of a single Jew is worth more than that of two million non-Jews. LLMs can occasionally say crazy stuff, that is not surprising, and I think we should do better than leaning into the outrage machine. The opposite is how we end up with ridiculous guardrails, like having ChatGPT say that it would rather allow all of humanity to perish than to say the N word, a statement which is orders of magnitude worse, only more publicly palatable.
moralestapia 1y ago
While you're not wrong, I feel like they don't make up a significant chunk of @grok's queries. People usually talk about other topics.
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
  This however is a significant chunk of @grok's queries if you only experience it through scrolling Apple News
sebzim4500 1y ago
Until very recently, it was alt-right people getting frustrated that they couldn't get grok to confirm their delusions. They had tricks to get it to confirm their priors (esp. asking leading questions and demanding a single word response) but they didn't work that well.
- Larrikin 1y ago
  When is very recently? I didn't recall any time where Grok wasn't making up answers about how great Elon is and how awful Jewish people, black people, liberals, etc are. It's usually the first test of any model they put out and always gives a ridiculous answer
  - PhunkyPhil 1y ago
    Recently as in the last few days when it started calling itself "MechaHitler" and scapegoating jewish people after the engineers let Elon ramble for the system prompt.
k__ 1y ago
I had the impression, Grok wasn't on Elon's side when it answered my questions or explained tweets.
- thrance 1y ago
  For a time, yes. Which is why they "fixed it" and it is now calling itself "MechaHitler" and praising Hitler and Musk for "being so based".
  - Auracle 1y ago
    That lasted for literal hours before they changed it back. It was clearly just shitposting in a 4chan style way.
    - thrance 1y ago
      Oh then nevermind. Grok only went full white supremacist twice after all, so no need to worry. Seriously, when will we be allowed to express concern over Musk's insane conducts? What will it take? Him doing a nazi salute on TV? Oops, already happened. Also, fuck that "it's just trolling bro" excuse. You don't get to praise Hitler and the Holocaust and then hide behind "shitposting" after. Own it you scummy nazi pieces of shit.
      - Auracle 1y ago
        Do you feel the same about Cory Booker's "nazi salute?" With the right prompt I'm sure PC-less Grok would have gone full black supremacist as well. Apparently at the same time it was blaming stuff on jews it was also saying the life of 1 jew was worth millions of other lives. The point is people's reactions to this sort of thing are colored by what's brought up and repeated in social media. Reddit went freaking crazy after Elon Musk did his quasi-nazi salute. Absolute crickets when Cory Booker did the same thing. I don't know everything that PC-less Grok said but I'm sure plenty of it went against your narrative.
        1y ago

saagarjha 1y ago

@grok is this true?

neilalexander 1y ago
A good 30% of Twitter is now just this verbatim.
- ACCount36 1y ago
  The average quality of a Twitter post went up then.
  - theshrike79 1y ago
    Until Grok went full nazi :D Then it came back to normal

LorenDB 1y ago

I think the Grok button that is present on tweets is the best way to ask Grok about tweets. Tagging @grok just spams others' timelines with useless AI responses. The Grok button lets you keep it private.

skarz 1y ago
Personally I think having the option to make grok's response public can be helpful, much like a community note. Let's face it, on reddit or Facebook or YouTube the first thing people do now is go straight to the comments for context or feedback. As they say, the real answer is always in the comments.
v5v3 1y ago
Public as the Ai response is often used to mediate two opposing submissions of facts. A neutral 3rd party.
- fwip 1y ago
  I like the idea, but it can't possibly be neutral. Both philosophically, and more concretely, it's run by Elon Musk, whose idea of neutrality is waaay to the right of the US Overton window. Not only is it trained on X data, which has swung dramatically rightward since his takeover, he makes sure that it generates a steady stream of edgy opinions and hot takes. See his just-removed-after-public-outcry instruction to disregard "political correctness", which immediately resulted in it calling itself MechaHitler - or his previous instructions to try to cry about reverse racism in South Africa.

dzhiurgis 1y ago

It still struggles to grok large threads. Hope FB brings something like this tho. Might be especially useful to summarize/search big groups. People used to cry how private groups and slack killed forums and hidden info, but I think we have a chance with tools like this.

v5v3 1y ago

@AskPerplexity is also on x