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You may not like Elon Musk but he's doing remarkably well for someone who is "clearly off the rails".

feoren 1y ago
Yes, corruption pays. Although if "doing remarkably well" means being addicted to ketamine, having many exes and children who refuse to speak with you, tanking multiple businesses to the point that your products get sabotaged just for being associated with you, getting booed off stages, licking the boots of fascists in the hope they'll let you call them "daddy", paying people to play online games for you to impress nerds (unsuccessfully, instead getting online-bullied for it), etc., etc., then I think I'd rather not "do remarkably well", thank you very much. Elon does not seem like a happy man. Is money the only points humans score themselves by? It's like watching someone bragging about getting the highest ever score at a game that they hate.
- AlexandrB 1y ago
  > licking the boots of fascists in the hope they'll let you call them "daddy" Which fascists?
  - therouwboat 1y ago
    German far-right party AfD?
    - blockmarker 1y ago
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      - lawlessone 1y ago
        They are fascist.
      - therouwboat 1y ago
        What does sexual orientation or adopted daughter have to do it?
        CamperBob2 1y ago
        He basically used 31 words to say "I've never heard of Ernst Roehm," for whatever reason. I don't think you can read much more into his comment than that.
  - DonHopkins 1y ago
    Do you mean that in the sense that he is licking the boots of so many fascists at once, including Trump, Xi Jinping, Putin, and any other fascist boot he can find, while calling them all daddy, that you're confused which of those many fascists feoren is referring to?
- olalonde 1y ago
  You have a distorted view or reality. Elon seems pretty happy to me and is undeniably successful in business - arguably the most successful entrepreneur of our time. I don't know much about his personal life but I suspect that him having babies with multiple women is due to personal choices rather than a sign of misfortune. He certainly doesn't seem "off the rails" to me. That said, I can understand that his lifestyle is not for everyone.
  - lawlessone 1y ago
    The man literally got punched out of the whitehouse for substance abuse lol His children break contact with him moment they become adults. If it wasn't for the money he would have been forbidden to see them long ago. Everyone hates him on the left and the right. If you consider a rich 50 year old creep doing drugs and going around impregnating young women and paying them to go away as successful? Then yes he is ..
    - olalonde 1y ago
      What does being "successful in business" have to do with his personal life? Not to mention that most of the things you mentioned is based on questionable tabloid reporting.
      - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
        Who said "successful in business?" No one except you, right here. I said he was "off the rails", you said he is "doing remarkably well," and GP listed reasons he seems like a deeply unhappy and psychologically damaged person. Now you're moving the goal posts to "successful in business". I guess your reflexive need to defend the world's richest person is rubbing up against the reality of the situation?
        olalonde 1y ago
        I was referring to his professional life when I said he was doing remarkably well - I don't know much about his personal life, and that wasn't the point of the discussion. What did you mean then by Yaccarino staining her legacy then? Are you implying she took advantage of Musk's vulnerable mental state? > I guess your reflexive need to defend the world's richest person is rubbing up against the reality of the situation? I'm not defending him, he just doesn't seem "off the rails" to me. Having children with multiple women might be unconventional, but I wouldn't take it as proof of being "a deeply unhappy and psychologically damaged person". As for drug addiction, that would be far more concerning, but given how high-functioning he appears to be, I'd be genuinely surprised if that were the case.
- refurb 1y ago
  I’ve never seen so many political talking points packed into one HN comment.
thomassmith65 1y ago
Elon Musk is doing well now the same way Elvis Presley or Howard Hughs were doing well in their final years.
- s5300 1y ago
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- nobunaga 1y ago
  I think Bernie Made-Off is a better comparison. It will all come crashing down
freejazz 1y ago
Like, financially? Sure. I don't think that was ever in dispute.
- olalonde 1y ago
  In what sense is he "off the rails" then?
  - thomassmith65 1y ago
    My eleventh wife just gave birth to my 58th child. Musk seems perfectly normal to me /s
    - olalonde 1y ago
      So you mean that he is weird?
      - thomassmith65 1y ago
        If I were to explore that in more detail, it would cross into armchair psychiatry, which would break my word to @dang https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32028649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32028649
      - freejazz 1y ago
        Well, very weird... which would be "off the rails"
nobunaga 1y ago
No he isnt. Tesla is going to down the shitter and he is trying to fool everyone that it suddenly is now an AI company lol with a disaster rollout for his taxis. Waymo is going to eat them for lunch. Driverless taxis with people overseeing things in the car lol Wow. Such autonomy. He also didnt even create the company. He basically stole it from some other guys who actually founded and built the early stages of tesla. He doesnt and isnt capable of running SpaceX. Their current CEO and tech lead is the person who runs the business and is actually knowledgable in the space industry and space engineering. Elon? Oh he just is there for the launches. His neuralink and xAI? lol Ok. Yes Im sure we will see a lot coming out of those businesses with most government and people know shunning his business's and himself. Oh and new version of a nazi LLM. Cant wait to use it. And Twitter. Wow so much great discourse and sensible conversation that it competes with truth social. Yes, he is doing remarkably well because he has money. Just like Pablo escoabr had money. The leaders of Enron were also doing remarkably well for a while. What about the guy who ran that ponzi scheme? Maddof. Yes he was also doing remarkably well since no one knew the bullshit he was generating. Elon is a fraud like all these other successful people who may have created businesses but hide the bullshit well for now. One day though, it will all come crashing down. Then you and all other sheep will look like greater fools than you do now. You still have time to come to your senses. Just dont be a sheep and glorify any man or exalt him above others. Its quite simple. He is no genius. He is someone who takes advantage and exploit others for his personal gain and is more destructive to society today than he has ever been and people like you are contributing to it so congrats to screwing over other people.

Yes, corruption pays. Although if "doing remarkably well" means being addicted to ketamine, having many exes and children who refuse to speak with you, tanking multiple businesses to the point that your products get sabotaged just for being associated with you, getting booed off stages, licking the boots of fascists in the hope they'll let you call them "daddy", paying people to play online games for you to impress nerds (unsuccessfully, instead getting online-bullied for it), etc., etc., then I think I'd rather not "do remarkably well", thank you very much. Elon does not seem like a happy man. Is money the only points humans score themselves by? It's like watching someone bragging about getting the highest ever score at a game that they hate.

AlexandrB 1y ago
> licking the boots of fascists in the hope they'll let you call them "daddy" Which fascists?
- therouwboat 1y ago
  German far-right party AfD?
  - blockmarker 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - lawlessone 1y ago
      They are fascist.
    - therouwboat 1y ago
      What does sexual orientation or adopted daughter have to do it?
      - CamperBob2 1y ago
        He basically used 31 words to say "I've never heard of Ernst Roehm," for whatever reason. I don't think you can read much more into his comment than that.
- DonHopkins 1y ago
  Do you mean that in the sense that he is licking the boots of so many fascists at once, including Trump, Xi Jinping, Putin, and any other fascist boot he can find, while calling them all daddy, that you're confused which of those many fascists feoren is referring to?
olalonde 1y ago
You have a distorted view or reality. Elon seems pretty happy to me and is undeniably successful in business - arguably the most successful entrepreneur of our time. I don't know much about his personal life but I suspect that him having babies with multiple women is due to personal choices rather than a sign of misfortune. He certainly doesn't seem "off the rails" to me. That said, I can understand that his lifestyle is not for everyone.
- lawlessone 1y ago
  The man literally got punched out of the whitehouse for substance abuse lol His children break contact with him moment they become adults. If it wasn't for the money he would have been forbidden to see them long ago. Everyone hates him on the left and the right. If you consider a rich 50 year old creep doing drugs and going around impregnating young women and paying them to go away as successful? Then yes he is ..
  - olalonde 1y ago
    What does being "successful in business" have to do with his personal life? Not to mention that most of the things you mentioned is based on questionable tabloid reporting.
    - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
      Who said "successful in business?" No one except you, right here. I said he was "off the rails", you said he is "doing remarkably well," and GP listed reasons he seems like a deeply unhappy and psychologically damaged person. Now you're moving the goal posts to "successful in business". I guess your reflexive need to defend the world's richest person is rubbing up against the reality of the situation?
      - olalonde 1y ago
        I was referring to his professional life when I said he was doing remarkably well - I don't know much about his personal life, and that wasn't the point of the discussion. What did you mean then by Yaccarino staining her legacy then? Are you implying she took advantage of Musk's vulnerable mental state? > I guess your reflexive need to defend the world's richest person is rubbing up against the reality of the situation? I'm not defending him, he just doesn't seem "off the rails" to me. Having children with multiple women might be unconventional, but I wouldn't take it as proof of being "a deeply unhappy and psychologically damaged person". As for drug addiction, that would be far more concerning, but given how high-functioning he appears to be, I'd be genuinely surprised if that were the case.
refurb 1y ago
I’ve never seen so many political talking points packed into one HN comment.

thomassmith65 1y ago

Elon Musk is doing well now the same way Elvis Presley or Howard Hughs were doing well in their final years.

s5300 1y ago
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nobunaga 1y ago
I think Bernie Made-Off is a better comparison. It will all come crashing down

freejazz 1y ago

Like, financially? Sure. I don't think that was ever in dispute.

olalonde 1y ago
In what sense is he "off the rails" then?
- thomassmith65 1y ago
  My eleventh wife just gave birth to my 58th child. Musk seems perfectly normal to me /s
  - olalonde 1y ago
    So you mean that he is weird?
    - thomassmith65 1y ago
      If I were to explore that in more detail, it would cross into armchair psychiatry, which would break my word to @dang https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32028649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32028649
    - freejazz 1y ago
      Well, very weird... which would be "off the rails"

nobunaga 1y ago

No he isnt. Tesla is going to down the shitter and he is trying to fool everyone that it suddenly is now an AI company lol with a disaster rollout for his taxis. Waymo is going to eat them for lunch. Driverless taxis with people overseeing things in the car lol Wow. Such autonomy. He also didnt even create the company. He basically stole it from some other guys who actually founded and built the early stages of tesla. He doesnt and isnt capable of running SpaceX. Their current CEO and tech lead is the person who runs the business and is actually knowledgable in the space industry and space engineering. Elon? Oh he just is there for the launches. His neuralink and xAI? lol Ok. Yes Im sure we will see a lot coming out of those businesses with most government and people know shunning his business's and himself. Oh and new version of a nazi LLM. Cant wait to use it. And Twitter. Wow so much great discourse and sensible conversation that it competes with truth social. Yes, he is doing remarkably well because he has money. Just like Pablo escoabr had money. The leaders of Enron were also doing remarkably well for a while. What about the guy who ran that ponzi scheme? Maddof. Yes he was also doing remarkably well since no one knew the bullshit he was generating. Elon is a fraud like all these other successful people who may have created businesses but hide the bullshit well for now. One day though, it will all come crashing down. Then you and all other sheep will look like greater fools than you do now. You still have time to come to your senses. Just dont be a sheep and glorify any man or exalt him above others. Its quite simple. He is no genius. He is someone who takes advantage and exploit others for his personal gain and is more destructive to society today than he has ever been and people like you are contributing to it so congrats to screwing over other people.