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“Bundled with alternatives to over $5,000 of professional software” That sounds spammy and misleading to me. I’m assuming they’re just including open source al
by roger_ 1y ago
“Bundled with alternatives to over $5,000 of professional software”
That sounds spammy and misleading to me. I’m assuming they’re just including open source alternatives and assuming the same value as commercial offerings.
- koakuma-chan 1y agoI would rather they didn't bundle anything at all lol
- debo_ 1y agoThe lite install doesn't bundle anything.
- ChrisRR 1y agoSo just the kernel?
- koakuma-chan 1y agoNo, I mean, like all that crap https://apps.gnome.org/ https://apps.gnome.org/
- ChrisRR 1y agoThe line's got to be drawn somewhere. I would think most people expect the OS to come with a clock and calculator
- jonnat 1y agoDoesn't sound misleading to me. I read "$5,000 of professional software" as paid-for software that would have cost $5,000.
- yoavm 1y agoSo clearly it is misleading, because what they mean is definitely along the lines of "we include GIMP while Photoshop costs $999".
- bigyabai 1y agoHow is it misleading when the sentence includes the word "alternative" from the boot? Are you misreading it and blaming the author?
- afavour 1y agoI don't think that's misleading. There are a lot of people out there who aren't aware that free software exists that provides a lot of the functionality of software that costs $999. They clearly say "alternatives to".
- yoavm 1y agoI was trying to make a point about how funny the parent post was, saying it isn't misleading while misunderstanding it and thinking that it means "paid-for software that would have cost $5,000". But perhapes I didn't understand the comment itself. I personally think the messaging is fine, but the above comment was a clear example that some people could get it wrong.
- IshKebab 1y agoBut gimp doesn't provide the functionality of software that costs $999. That's why it's misleading. It's probably more like Affinity Photo which is £68.
- Propelloni 1y agoWhich, incidentally, is the software they compare their offering to. The only Adobe software they mention in the comparison is Adobe Premier Pro.
- timeon 1y agoWhole Affinity pack is 10% of Photoshop while providing more functionality (just Affinity Designer handles vectors like Illustrator while edits pixels as well). Gimp finally has non-destructive editing, so is almost in same category as those two. And Krita is good for pixels as well.
- djaychela 1y agoBut for many, they wouldn't even know this was possible. Yes, when you look into it it will be all the usual software, but 95% of people don't even know there is a world beyond windows and macOS, so that might be something that gets them to look for a couple of minutes and consider they might be able to use this. But I get what you're saying.
- nartho 1y ago>Zorin OS is built on the same Open Source software that powers the New York Stock Exchange and computers on the International Space Station. >Thanks to the advanced security features of Linux, Zorin OS is resistant to PC viruses and malware The whole landing page is full of those statements. It seems like they are targeting a demographics with low tech literacy, but I don't know how productive those statements are really.
- qualeed 1y agoThose two statements rubbed me the wrong way (more than the $5000 statement). Reminds me of military-grade encryption, etc. Completely void of any meaning, but sounds great to laypeople.
- kjellsbells 1y agoIt's simultaneously too much and too little. If the reader is genuinely a tech layperson, eg, someone who grew up on iPad and nothing else, then "open source" and "Linux" are just confusing filler words and a better statement would be "Zorin OS is built from the same software that powers the New York Stock Exchange and computers on the International Space Station. Thanks to its advanced security features, Zorin OS is resistant to PC viruses and malware." The root is that the writers are pushing Linux, and writing through that lens, instead of internalizing the ur-problem that the readers have of "needing to get off Windows" (for whatever reason) and writing content that addresses that. And I say this as a fan of Zorin.
- kube-system 1y agoI think the market they're targeting here makes no sense whatsoever. What cross section of people are both: 1. A tech layperson, and ... 2. In the market for downloading an OS? Normal people buy computers and use OS that is installed on them. It would probably make more sense to be targeting OEMs or something.
- mitkebes 1y agoCommented this above, but I've had freinds and family ask about alternatives to windows lately because of privacy concerns or just being unhappy with it. I've been sending them the link to the ZorinOS page, and it's been popular with them. It convinced my dad to try Zorin on a new laptop they were buying, and he's been happy with it.
- yesfitz 1y agoHow would you rephrase the sentiment?
- DSMan195276 1y agoI would add - I don't mind them describing it like that, the questionable part is how the advertising heavily implies that to get access to that software you have to buy the "Pro" version. The software is of course free and available to install on the "non-pro" version, it just doesn't get installed during installation, and they're definitely betting on people not knowing this detail and buying "Pro" to get the listed software.
- andsoitis 1y agoYou also get support with the Pro version.
- dartharva 1y agoThey are specifically targeting enterprise customers, so corpo speak was going to be evident in their promo material.
- frollogaston 1y agoGIMP, a $23/mo value, yours for $0/mo!
- mitkebes 1y agoI think that's mostly there to give people confidence that they'll have real, quality software available. A concern for new linux users is that they'll be missing software they need, that statement expresses that there will be a lot of software available, and that the quality is comparable to profession quality.
- a2128 1y agoI wouldn't consider GIMP a real, professional-quality alternative to Photoshop (I say this as someone who uses GIMP on a daily basis)