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Matrix 4 did not do much of anything with, well, anything. Maybe except for the meta-commentary in the first act where the lead character is hesitant to make a

by pferde 1y ago

Matrix 4 did not do much of anything with, well, anything. Maybe except for the meta-commentary in the first act where the lead character is hesitant to make a pointless sequel to a popular franchise, but is forced to by his corporate abusers.

Cthulhu_ 1y ago
The Wachowskis weren't forced to, they, as humans, have the power to say "nu-uh". But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. Or worse: WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them (or the actors). I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point.
- chippiewill 1y ago
  > WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them This is 100% what was going to happen. The film basically tells you this in its meta-commentary.
- triceratops 1y ago
  > I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point. As the Matrix itself did, according to the Architect.
- worldsayshi 1y ago
  To me Matrix 4 was sort of an admission by The Wachowskis that while they could create at least one 'perfect' cyberpunk movie, they couldn't really figure out what cyberpunk should lead to - what a good subversion of the genre should look like. It feels like they tried but kind of gave up half way there. Subverting a franchise that people already have such strong and established connection to is probably almost impossible.
- throw0101d 1y ago
  > But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. "I have never seen [Jaws: The Revenge], but by all accounts it was terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific." * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life
mnky9800n 1y ago
I thought the first act was clever. In fact, I kind of wish the entire movie was just neo sitting in a therapist office trying to unpack what happened to him and you never know if he is just a crazy person or real. Then you get action sequences from flashbacks or whatever. After the first act matrix 4 stops being a movie and just becomes a collection of unrelated scenes.

by pferde 1y ago

Cthulhu_ 1y ago

The Wachowskis weren't forced to, they, as humans, have the power to say "nu-uh". But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. Or worse: WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them (or the actors). I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point.

chippiewill 1y ago
> WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them This is 100% what was going to happen. The film basically tells you this in its meta-commentary.
triceratops 1y ago
> I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point. As the Matrix itself did, according to the Architect.
worldsayshi 1y ago
To me Matrix 4 was sort of an admission by The Wachowskis that while they could create at least one 'perfect' cyberpunk movie, they couldn't really figure out what cyberpunk should lead to - what a good subversion of the genre should look like. It feels like they tried but kind of gave up half way there. Subverting a franchise that people already have such strong and established connection to is probably almost impossible.
throw0101d 1y ago
> But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. "I have never seen [Jaws: The Revenge], but by all accounts it was terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific." * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life

mnky9800n 1y ago

I thought the first act was clever. In fact, I kind of wish the entire movie was just neo sitting in a therapist office trying to unpack what happened to him and you never know if he is just a crazy person or real. Then you get action sequences from flashbacks or whatever. After the first act matrix 4 stops being a movie and just becomes a collection of unrelated scenes.