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They are flying over the cloudbs because thats only way to avoid defenses of the Machine City. Matrix 4 introduced „good machines” but didn’t do much of anythi

by Ralfp 1y ago

They are flying over the cloudbs because thats only way to avoid defenses of the Machine City. Matrix 4 introduced „good machines” but didn’t do much of anything with them :|

pferde 1y ago
Matrix 4 did not do much of anything with, well, anything. Maybe except for the meta-commentary in the first act where the lead character is hesitant to make a pointless sequel to a popular franchise, but is forced to by his corporate abusers.
- Cthulhu_ 1y ago
  The Wachowskis weren't forced to, they, as humans, have the power to say "nu-uh". But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. Or worse: WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them (or the actors). I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point.
  - chippiewill 1y ago
    > WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them This is 100% what was going to happen. The film basically tells you this in its meta-commentary.
  - triceratops 1y ago
    > I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point. As the Matrix itself did, according to the Architect.
  - worldsayshi 1y ago
    To me Matrix 4 was sort of an admission by The Wachowskis that while they could create at least one 'perfect' cyberpunk movie, they couldn't really figure out what cyberpunk should lead to - what a good subversion of the genre should look like. It feels like they tried but kind of gave up half way there. Subverting a franchise that people already have such strong and established connection to is probably almost impossible.
  - throw0101d 1y ago
    > But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. "I have never seen [Jaws: The Revenge], but by all accounts it was terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific." * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life
- mnky9800n 1y ago
  I thought the first act was clever. In fact, I kind of wish the entire movie was just neo sitting in a therapist office trying to unpack what happened to him and you never know if he is just a crazy person or real. Then you get action sequences from flashbacks or whatever. After the first act matrix 4 stops being a movie and just becomes a collection of unrelated scenes.

by Ralfp 1y ago

They are flying over the cloudbs because thats only way to avoid defenses of the Machine City. Matrix 4 introduced „good machines” but didn’t do much of anything with them :|

pferde 1y ago

Matrix 4 did not do much of anything with, well, anything. Maybe except for the meta-commentary in the first act where the lead character is hesitant to make a pointless sequel to a popular franchise, but is forced to by his corporate abusers.

Cthulhu_ 1y ago
The Wachowskis weren't forced to, they, as humans, have the power to say "nu-uh". But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. Or worse: WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them (or the actors). I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point.
- chippiewill 1y ago
  > WB owned the franchise and were going to make a sequel with or without them This is 100% what was going to happen. The film basically tells you this in its meta-commentary.
- triceratops 1y ago
  > I'm sure the franchise will get a "hard" reboot at some point. As the Matrix itself did, according to the Architect.
- worldsayshi 1y ago
  To me Matrix 4 was sort of an admission by The Wachowskis that while they could create at least one 'perfect' cyberpunk movie, they couldn't really figure out what cyberpunk should lead to - what a good subversion of the genre should look like. It feels like they tried but kind of gave up half way there. Subverting a franchise that people already have such strong and established connection to is probably almost impossible.
- throw0101d 1y ago
  > But I suppose they were made an offer they couldn't refuse. "I have never seen [Jaws: The Revenge], but by all accounts it was terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific." * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caine#Personal_life
mnky9800n 1y ago
I thought the first act was clever. In fact, I kind of wish the entire movie was just neo sitting in a therapist office trying to unpack what happened to him and you never know if he is just a crazy person or real. Then you get action sequences from flashbacks or whatever. After the first act matrix 4 stops being a movie and just becomes a collection of unrelated scenes.