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People weren't using the OK gesture innocently. After 4chan trolls decided to start pretending it was a white supremacist symbol, actual white supremacists star
by immibis 1y ago
People weren't using the OK gesture innocently. After 4chan trolls decided to start pretending it was a white supremacist symbol, actual white supremacists started using it as a symbol.
- coldtea 1y agoAll 10 of them? What about the other 7-8 billion people still using it normally?
- thephyber 1y agoSome were using it in the traditional unironic (and IMHO cringe) way, similar to anyone who used the phrase “Let’s go, Brandon!” Before that NASCAR race when MAGAs adopted it as ironic + coded vice signaling. Quit being overly pedantic. We all knew there was an unironic purpose for the gesture before it became ironic.
- immibis 1y agoI promise you the world contains more than 10 white supremacists and less than 7,000,000,000 non-white-supremacists who regularly use the OK sign.
- PunchyHamster 1y agothen congratulations on making white supremacists define your langyage
- immibis 1y agoDo you still use swastikas as symbols of peace and love because you don't want white supremacists to define your language? I strongly doubt you do that. Whether you like it or not, the Nazis defined what the swastika means now.
- anton-c 1y agoIt's still seen in the countries that used it that way and is seen as benign. It can be easily summoned with the Japanese keyboard. It's seen on Buddhist temples all over Asia.
- immibis 1y agoDo Japanese people speak the same language as you and I?
- mopsi 1y agoFinnish use of swastika predates Germany and the Finnish Air Force Academy uses swastika to this day in their official insignia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Academy_(Finland) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Academy_(Finland) Taboos are a cultural thing, and the world is (thankfully) very far from having a monoculture shaped by NYC's neurotic intellectuals.
- coldtea 1y ago>Do you still use swastikas as symbols of peace and love because you don't want white supremacists to define your language? They were hardly ever used in the west for at least a full millenium before the Nazis too (except a handful of cases, where they still use them, like the Finnish Air Force), so that's a moot analogy. In Asia, they still use them just fine, in houses, temples, businesses, and elsewhere.
- fennecbutt 1y agoNo, because western culture never really did. However the countries who have been using it for at least thousands of years in Buddhism are still using it just fine. In fact there was a recent thing with one of the BTS members' uniform (worn during mandatory military service period in South Korea), which had the regular (not tilted) swastika on it because he was assigned to religious duties. And of course the western world/media ran away with it. Plenty of absolutely brain dead people out there who couldn't research a topic to gain an understanding to save their lives.