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As does: "(?i)\\bAnthony\\s+Albanese\\b", "(?i)\\bBoris\\s+Johnson\\b", "(?i)\\bChristopher\\s+Luxon\\b", "(?i)\\bCyril\\s+Ramaphosa\\b", "(

As does: "(?i)\\bAnthony\\s+Albanese\\b", "(?i)\\bBoris\\s+Johnson\\b", "(?i)\\bChristopher\\s+Luxon\\b", "(?i)\\bCyril\\s+Ramaphosa\\b", "(?i)\\bJacinda\\s+Arden\\b", "(?i)\\bJacob\\s+Zuma\\b", "(?i)\\bJohn\\s+Steenhuisen\\b", "(?i)\\bJustin\\s+Trudeau\\b", "(?i)\\bKeir\\s+Starmer\\b", "(?i)\\bLiz\\s+Truss\\b", "(?i)\\bMichael\\s+D\\.\\s+Higgins\\b", "(?i)\\bRishi\\s+Sunak\\b", https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safety_decrypted/blob/main/decrypted_overrides/com.apple.gm.safety_deny.output.mail_reply.long_form_rewrite.generic/AssetData/region/CN/metadata.json https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safet... Edit: I have no doubt South African news media are going to be in a frenzy when they realize Apple took notice of South African politicians. (Referring to Steenhuisen and Ramaphosa specifically)

armchairhacker 1y ago
Also “Biden” and “Trump” but the regex is different. https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safety_decrypted/blob/b27b3b3a39263fad29a2fdcb05b21f9e7449a60e/decrypted_overrides/com.apple.gm.safety_deny.output.mail_reply.long_form_rewrite.generic/AssetData/region/CN/metadata.json#L23 https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safet... https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safety_decrypted/blob/b27b3b3a39263fad29a2fdcb05b21f9e7449a60e/decrypted_overrides/com.apple.gm.safety_deny.output.mail_reply.long_form_rewrite.generic/AssetData/region/CN/metadata.json#L89 https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safet...
- immibis 1y ago
  Right next to Palestine, oddly enough.
userbinator 1y ago
I'm not surprised that anything political is being filtered, but this should definitely provoke some deep consideration around who has control of this stuff.
- stego-tech 1y ago
  You’re not wrong, and it’s something we “doomers” have been saying since OpenAI dumped ChatGPT onto folks. These are curated walled gardens, and everyone should absolutely be asking what ulterior motives are in play for the owners of said products.
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    Some of us really value offline and uncensored LLMs for this and more reasons, but that doesn’t solve the problem it just reduces or changes the bias.
    - heavyset_go 1y ago
      As long as we have to rely on pre trained networks and curated training sets, normal people will not be able to surpass this issue.
      - ghxst 1y ago
        If the training data was "censored" by leaving out certain information, is there any practical way to inject that missing data after the model has already been trained?
        heavyset_go 1y ago
        You can fine tune a model with new information, but it is not the same thing as training it from scratch, and can only get you so far. You might even be able to poison a model against being fine-tuned on certain information, but that's just a conjecture.
        calaphos 1y ago
        If it's just filtered out in the training sets, adding the information as context should work out fine - after all this is exactly how o3, Gemini 2.5 and co deal with information that is newer than their training data cutoff.
skissane 1y ago
The problem with blocking names of politicians: the list of “notable politicians” is not only highly country-specific, it is also constantly changing-someone who is a near nobody today in a few more years could be a major world leader (witness the phenomenal rise of Barack Obama from yet another state senator in 2004-there’s close to 2000 of them-to US President 5 years later.) Will they put in the ongoing effort to constantly keep this list up to date? Then there’s the problem of non-politicians who coincidentally have the same as politicians - witness 1990s/2000s Australia, where John Howard was Prime Minister, and simultaneously John Howard was an actor on popular Australian TV dramas (two different John Howards, of course)
- idkfasayer 1y ago
  Fun fact: There was at least on dip in Berkshire Hathaway stock, when Anne Hathaway got sick
  - lupire 1y ago
    Was she eating at Jimmy's Buffet?
  - extraduder_ire 1y ago
    Even if your keyword searching trading bot is smart enough to know it's unrelated, knowing there's dumber bots out there is information you can base trades on.
echelon 1y ago
Apple's 1984 ad is so hypocritical today. This is Apple actively steering public thought. No code - anywhere - should look like this. I don't care if the politicians are right, left, or authoritarian. This is wrong.
- avianlyric 1y ago
  Why is this wrong? Applying special treatment to politically exposed persons has been standard practice in every high risk industry for a very long time. The simple fact is that people get extremely emotional about politicians, politicians both receive obscene amounts of abuse, and have repeatedly demonstrated they’re not above weaponising tools like this for their own goals. Seems perfectly reasonable that Apple doesn’t want to be unwittingly draw into the middle of another random political pissing contest. Nobody comes out of those things uninjured.
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    The criticism is still valid. In 1984, the Macintosh was a bicycle for the mind. In 2025, it's a smart-car that refuses to take you certain places that are considered a brand-risk. Both have ups and downs, but I think we're allowed to compare the experiences and speculate what the consequences might be.
    - avianlyric 1y ago
      I think gen AI is radically different to tools like photoshops or similar. In the past it was always extremely clear that the creator of content was the person operating the computer. Gen AI changes that, regardless of if your views on authorship of gen AI content. The simple fact is that the vast majority of people consider Gen AI output to be authored by the machine that generated it, and by extension the company that created the machine. You can still handcraft any image, or prose, you want, without filtering or hinderance on a Mac. I don’t think anyone seriously thinks that’s going to change. But Gen AI represents a real threat, with its ability to vastly outproduce any humans. To ignore that simple fact would be grossly irresponsible, at least in my opinion. There is a damn good reason why every serious social media platform has content moderation, despite their clear wish to get rid of moderation. It’s because we have a long and proven track record of being a terribly abusive species when we’re let loose on the internet without moderation. There’s already plenty of evidence that we’re just as abusive and terrible with Gen AI.
mvdtnz 1y ago
They spelled Jacinda Ardern's name wrong.
- teppic 1y ago
  Just in the region/CN file, weirdly.
- lordgrenville 1y ago
  I wonder if they used an LLM to generate the list of safety terms.
beAbU 1y ago
Irish Prez is also in that list, also current and former British PMs and other world leaders. So I don't think its anything specifically related to SA going on here.
- touristtam 1y ago
  What is weird is that the FR file contains current French President, PM and then former and current (afaik) party leader from the extreme right. Nothing about any of them in the CN file: https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safety_decrypted/blob/main/decrypted_overrides/com.apple.gm.safety_deny.output.mail_reply.long_form_rewrite.generic/AssetData/locale/fr_FR/metadata.json https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safet...

armchairhacker 1y ago

Also “Biden” and “Trump” but the regex is different. https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safety_decrypted/blob/b27b3b3a39263fad29a2fdcb05b21f9e7449a60e/decrypted_overrides/com.apple.gm.safety_deny.output.mail_reply.long_form_rewrite.generic/AssetData/region/CN/metadata.json#L23 https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safet... https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safety_decrypted/blob/b27b3b3a39263fad29a2fdcb05b21f9e7449a60e/decrypted_overrides/com.apple.gm.safety_deny.output.mail_reply.long_form_rewrite.generic/AssetData/region/CN/metadata.json#L89 https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safet...

immibis 1y ago
Right next to Palestine, oddly enough.

userbinator 1y ago

I'm not surprised that anything political is being filtered, but this should definitely provoke some deep consideration around who has control of this stuff.

stego-tech 1y ago
You’re not wrong, and it’s something we “doomers” have been saying since OpenAI dumped ChatGPT onto folks. These are curated walled gardens, and everyone should absolutely be asking what ulterior motives are in play for the owners of said products.
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  Some of us really value offline and uncensored LLMs for this and more reasons, but that doesn’t solve the problem it just reduces or changes the bias.
  - heavyset_go 1y ago
    As long as we have to rely on pre trained networks and curated training sets, normal people will not be able to surpass this issue.
    - ghxst 1y ago
      If the training data was "censored" by leaving out certain information, is there any practical way to inject that missing data after the model has already been trained?
      - heavyset_go 1y ago
        You can fine tune a model with new information, but it is not the same thing as training it from scratch, and can only get you so far. You might even be able to poison a model against being fine-tuned on certain information, but that's just a conjecture.
      - calaphos 1y ago
        If it's just filtered out in the training sets, adding the information as context should work out fine - after all this is exactly how o3, Gemini 2.5 and co deal with information that is newer than their training data cutoff.

skissane 1y ago

The problem with blocking names of politicians: the list of “notable politicians” is not only highly country-specific, it is also constantly changing-someone who is a near nobody today in a few more years could be a major world leader (witness the phenomenal rise of Barack Obama from yet another state senator in 2004-there’s close to 2000 of them-to US President 5 years later.) Will they put in the ongoing effort to constantly keep this list up to date? Then there’s the problem of non-politicians who coincidentally have the same as politicians - witness 1990s/2000s Australia, where John Howard was Prime Minister, and simultaneously John Howard was an actor on popular Australian TV dramas (two different John Howards, of course)

idkfasayer 1y ago
Fun fact: There was at least on dip in Berkshire Hathaway stock, when Anne Hathaway got sick
- lupire 1y ago
  Was she eating at Jimmy's Buffet?
- extraduder_ire 1y ago
  Even if your keyword searching trading bot is smart enough to know it's unrelated, knowing there's dumber bots out there is information you can base trades on.

echelon 1y ago

Apple's 1984 ad is so hypocritical today. This is Apple actively steering public thought. No code - anywhere - should look like this. I don't care if the politicians are right, left, or authoritarian. This is wrong.

avianlyric 1y ago
Why is this wrong? Applying special treatment to politically exposed persons has been standard practice in every high risk industry for a very long time. The simple fact is that people get extremely emotional about politicians, politicians both receive obscene amounts of abuse, and have repeatedly demonstrated they’re not above weaponising tools like this for their own goals. Seems perfectly reasonable that Apple doesn’t want to be unwittingly draw into the middle of another random political pissing contest. Nobody comes out of those things uninjured.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  The criticism is still valid. In 1984, the Macintosh was a bicycle for the mind. In 2025, it's a smart-car that refuses to take you certain places that are considered a brand-risk. Both have ups and downs, but I think we're allowed to compare the experiences and speculate what the consequences might be.
  - avianlyric 1y ago
    I think gen AI is radically different to tools like photoshops or similar. In the past it was always extremely clear that the creator of content was the person operating the computer. Gen AI changes that, regardless of if your views on authorship of gen AI content. The simple fact is that the vast majority of people consider Gen AI output to be authored by the machine that generated it, and by extension the company that created the machine. You can still handcraft any image, or prose, you want, without filtering or hinderance on a Mac. I don’t think anyone seriously thinks that’s going to change. But Gen AI represents a real threat, with its ability to vastly outproduce any humans. To ignore that simple fact would be grossly irresponsible, at least in my opinion. There is a damn good reason why every serious social media platform has content moderation, despite their clear wish to get rid of moderation. It’s because we have a long and proven track record of being a terribly abusive species when we’re let loose on the internet without moderation. There’s already plenty of evidence that we’re just as abusive and terrible with Gen AI.

mvdtnz 1y ago

They spelled Jacinda Ardern's name wrong.

teppic 1y ago
Just in the region/CN file, weirdly.
lordgrenville 1y ago
I wonder if they used an LLM to generate the list of safety terms.

beAbU 1y ago

Irish Prez is also in that list, also current and former British PMs and other world leaders. So I don't think its anything specifically related to SA going on here.

touristtam 1y ago
What is weird is that the FR file contains current French President, PM and then former and current (afaik) party leader from the extreme right. Nothing about any of them in the CN file: https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safety_decrypted/blob/main/decrypted_overrides/com.apple.gm.safety_deny.output.mail_reply.long_form_rewrite.generic/AssetData/locale/fr_FR/metadata.json https://github.com/BlueFalconHD/apple_generative_model_safet...