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Claude Code Pro Limit? Hack It While You Sleep
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- zackify 1y agoSince downgrading from max to pro.... i have been using sonnet 4 a TON and i havent even been limited yet. The usage allowance is awesome since gemini cli released.
- nxobject 1y agoAs someone who cpuld have never considered Claude Code due to the cost of Max/Opus - do you notice any differences in practice with just Sonnet?
- zachthewf 1y agoSonnet is noticeably worse in my opinion. It’s worth it to spring for Max and only use Opus
- benreesman 1y agoOpus and Sonnet are pretty similar for mainstream stuff heavily represented in the corpus. But when you get into dark corners, Opus remains useful or at the minimum not harmful, Sonnet (especially Claude Code) are really useful doing something commonly done in $MAINSTREAM_STACK, but will wreck your tree in some io_uring sorcery.
- zackify 1y agoEverything is so dependent on the type of work you do. For me sonnet works pretty well, it’s hard for me to say. Even when I used opus nonstop last month it’s not like I was doing the exact same tasks on sonnet. However it did drop down to sonnet a lot and I didn’t have a problem
- raylad 1y agoSeems convenient. I have a couple of different Claude accounts, so I switched between them when one gets exhausted. Sometimes they both get exhausted. If other people have a couple of accounts then that would be a nice feature to add to this: switching between accounts and then resuming when either of them becomes available again.
- totaa 1y agopairing this with Task Master could allow you to draft all of your tasks and effectively have Claude pick something from an endless backlog 24/7...
- akmarinov 1y agoDoesn’t Taskmaster require an API key? It doesn’t work with a subscription. You can technically hack the API key from the subscription, but that’s probably brittle. Or is there some other meta I’m missing?
- mehdibl 1y agoYou need some time to chain tasks. Endless tasks, can't be in random order and there is usually a link between tasks/context.
- totaa 1y agowhen I say Task Master[0] I'm referring to specific bit of software that manages task dependencies and ordering. but I agree, at least the way I use AI tools, it'd be unfeasible to review the code using this method. [0] https://github.com/eyaltoledano/claude-task-master https://github.com/eyaltoledano/claude-task-master
- mehdibl 1y agoMy extension in vscode have auto resume already, you use GUI to write workflows and run them right them. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Codingworkflow.claude-runner https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Codingwo... You can even pause. I will public a CLI that is doing same base on same syntax. And it use github claude action yaml syntax: https://github.com/codingworkflow/claude-runner/blob/main/.github/workflows/claude-test.yml https://github.com/codingworkflow/claude-runner/blob/main/.g...
- bko 1y agoI love these work-arounds and generous tiers. A bit of a tangent, but with very cheap essentially unlimited code generation, are there any active projects that just run this for days straight with an ambitious goal like "Develop an operating system" with instructions to just make all the necessary decisions to continue work? I would love to see what a system like Claude Code could cook up running continuously for weeks. But I imagine it would get stuck in some infinite recursive loop.
- gpsx 1y agoIt would probably look suspiciously like Linux.
- cadamsdotcom 1y agoBetter that than violating someone’s IP!
- dawnerd 1y agoCurrent llms get lost fairly quickly in larger projects. They still benefit from reduced scope when promoting. Context is the biggest bottleneck right now by far. You can only summarize so much before the information is too vague to make meaningful changes.
- v7n 1y agoI think you might be aiming too low. Tasked with writing a "perfect and most useful program" this would surely yield something more than merely writing 42 to stdout.
- 0x000xca0xfe 1y agoYes I tried pushing it as far as possible over the course of a couple days to invent, build and prioritize the direction of a new programming language (trying to give it as much freedom as possible and make its own decicions while steering it only to not get stuck). After around $50 in tokens it kinda got lost in the complexity it had created and just kept adding more and more useless trivialities while overlooking fundamental unsolved problems. E.g. it wanted to build a data query language with temporal operations but completely forgot to keep historical data. It currently lacks the ability to focus on the overall goal and prioritize sub-tasks accordingly and instead spirals into random side quests real quick.
- magic_man 1y agoThis over reliance on llms is crazy. People are going to forget how to code. Sometimes the llm makes up shit or uses the wrong version of the API. Sometimes it's easier to look up the documentation and write some code.
- dawnerd 1y agoThe future is going to be great for us that have been resisting going all in. Unfortunately I feel a lot of work will be detangling the mess these llms make in larger repos.
- skydhash 1y agoThe devils is in the details, as they say. And software engineering used to be exorcism, now they want it to be summoning. Now I'm just hopping for the majority to realize that hell is not a great environment for business.
- Bluestein 1y ago> software engineering used to be exorcism, now they want it to be summoning. Now I'm just hopping for the majority to realize that hell is not a great environment for business With your leave, this is going up on my wall :)
- xp84 1y agoI mean, it’s just like having an army of interns that works for (near) free. It’s a huge positive for productivity, and I don’t think we will forget how. I’m more concerned with how we make new senior/staff engineers from now on, since the old “do grunt work for a couple years, then do simple well defined work for a few years” is 100% not a career path that exists even now.
- LTL_FTC 1y agoThis is my question as well. I am already wondering how prepared college grads will be. Getting help with programming assignments meant going to the dungeon and collaborating with fellow students while the TA made their rounds and overall just figuring it out. Today, an LLM knocks out the programming assignments in once shot, probably. And industry seems hellbent on hiring seniors mostly so where are the juniors to become seniors going to come from? I think the talent pipeline has contracted and/or will and overcorrect. But maybe the industry’s carrying capacity of devs has shrunk.
- oc1 1y agoThat in my experience is never the bottleneck, at least not for professionals. Letting Claude code is the easy part of the job. Gathering the requirements, Drafting a good story for claude, guiding claude through the endless mistakes it usually commits, reviewing the output of claude, steering the ship, this is the bottleneck. Unfortunately, no AI can't steer the ship currently, not o3 pro, not gemini, not opus 4, not any of their fancy cli agent tools, no matter how clever the md instruction files and other gimmicks. And boy, i'd be the first one to cheer if AI could do this. But currently, it's useless without fulltime attention of a senior experienced human.
- amelius 1y ago> And boy, i'd be the first one to cheer if AI could do this. Yeah, well it would be the next major step towards human irrelevance. Or at least, for developers.
- IgorPartola 1y agoI don’t see it that way. Even if Claude could give me code without hallucinating (in my experience it is a 30-35% success rate on giving me code that actually works and doesn’t use APIs it makes up as it goes), it cannot come up with real world problems to solve. For example, it isn’t going to notice that I need help managing my calendars and want an AI assistant that can read my calendar and email me my agenda for the day and the week, find scheduling conflicts, and suggest dates and times that align with social norms and my habits for get togethers with friends. It cannot notice that my car’s Bluetooth prioritized the last phone it was connected to and not my phone. It cannot notice that my 3D printer has a frame skew that needs to be corrected. It cannot notice that a set of solar panels could be optimized with a bunch of liners actuators and a cloud tracking camera. Those are meatspace problems that Claude cannot see. It might get more capable but it can’t design a product or a service.
- amelius 1y agoYes, but product designers can talk to the AI and they wouldn't need developers to implement their ideas.
- subarctic 1y agoWhy is the API usage-based billing so much more expensive than the $20/month tier? Like you can literally burn through $20 of usage in a day with the same amount of usage that you get included with the $20/month plan
- raincole 1y agoBecause subscription plans are subsidized by people who don't use it that much. Like gyms. That being said it will not surprise me if subscribers actually are losing Claude money and only API is profitable.
- _flux 1y agoHow much people use these APIs? It seems Clause API costs $3 or $15 per 1M tokens (I suppose for different models, it seems difficult to find first-party pricing information), so people who would use these daily would then use a lot more than that?
- bad_haircut72 1y agoI need this plus a little drinky-drinky bird to keep pressing 'y' for me, just as the Simpsons predicted
- fourthark 1y agoDon't worry, this script dangerously skips permissions (by default?) You don't need to press 'y'.
- megadragon9 1y agoReminds me of this HN discussion (Writing Code Was Never the Bottleneck): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44429789 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44429789
- martinald 1y agoFeels like we are incredibly early into pricing LLM usage. I suspect we are going to look back in the days these scripts were useful with some rose tinted glasses. I assume they have very peaky demand, especially when Europe + N American office hours overlap (though I'm assuming b2b demand is higher than b2c). I'm also assuming Asian demand is significantly less than "the west", which I guess would be true given the reluctance to serve Chinese users (and Chinese users using locally hosted models?). I know OpenAI and Anthropic have 'batch' pricing but that's slightly different as it's asynchronous and not well suited for a lot of code tasks. Think a more dynamic model for users would make a lot more sense - for example, a cheaper tier giving "Max" usage but you can only use it 8pm-6am Eastern time, otherwise you are on Pro limits.
- bravura 1y agoClaude Code with an API token, even when told: "Iterate until github is green without stopping" will sometimes just stop and wait to be told to continue.
- theblazehen 1y agoFor a POC, I've wrapped it with another LLM that makes some judgements and sends the appropriate (Keep going, do xyz) messages. Worked well enough for basic tasks