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If the law is that you can't do this, then those terms will just disappear from licencing agreements. It's not like there's a shortage of textures and sounds i

by cwillu 1y ago

If the law is that you can't do this, then those terms will just disappear from licencing agreements. It's not like there's a shortage of textures and sounds in the marketplace.

meheleventyone 1y ago
That entirely depends on the content, some is fungible and some isn’t. For the majority of general content developers are already getting a perpetual license so it’s really these special cases that will remain an issue and are unlikely to be resolved in the manner you suggest.
dijit 1y ago
For some things. For others you may not be able to license it. Example: have you seen a street racing game with Toyota’s in it? There’s a reason that Need For Speed games fell off after Most Wanted (original) and it’s because they themselves don’t get total artistic license on their works. And part of the agreements is a reasonable expectation that you will not assist anyone else to violate the agreement - and, the agreements are not perpetual either. So, depends on context. There are examples where licensing opportunities dry up.
- archagon 1y ago
  Somehow game companies managed to deal with this when games were sold on CDs. They’ll figure it out again.
  - dijit 1y ago
    Yeah, it was easier then. The presumption was that sales were not perpetual- and reselling isn’t leasing a license in the same way. Maybe there’s a way though
  - robertlagrant 1y ago
    Yes - they started including DRM software on the CDs. They'll figure that out again.
ryandrake 1y ago
Yea, I think some people are acting like these "licenses" are physical constants, found in nature and can't be modified! They are made by humans and can be unmade by humans. Regulation could deem those licenses unenforceable. Regulation could force permissive licensing. Regulation could add or remove IP protection. It's all conjured up by humans. Yes, it is unlikely that legislators, bought and paid for by big corporations, will ever change the rules to reduce help to big corporations, but it's at least humanly possible.

by cwillu 1y ago

If the law is that you can't do this, then those terms will just disappear from licencing agreements. It's not like there's a shortage of textures and sounds in the marketplace.

meheleventyone 1y ago

That entirely depends on the content, some is fungible and some isn’t. For the majority of general content developers are already getting a perpetual license so it’s really these special cases that will remain an issue and are unlikely to be resolved in the manner you suggest.

dijit 1y ago

For some things. For others you may not be able to license it. Example: have you seen a street racing game with Toyota’s in it? There’s a reason that Need For Speed games fell off after Most Wanted (original) and it’s because they themselves don’t get total artistic license on their works. And part of the agreements is a reasonable expectation that you will not assist anyone else to violate the agreement - and, the agreements are not perpetual either. So, depends on context. There are examples where licensing opportunities dry up.

archagon 1y ago
Somehow game companies managed to deal with this when games were sold on CDs. They’ll figure it out again.
- dijit 1y ago
  Yeah, it was easier then. The presumption was that sales were not perpetual- and reselling isn’t leasing a license in the same way. Maybe there’s a way though
- robertlagrant 1y ago
  Yes - they started including DRM software on the CDs. They'll figure that out again.

ryandrake 1y ago

Yea, I think some people are acting like these "licenses" are physical constants, found in nature and can't be modified! They are made by humans and can be unmade by humans. Regulation could deem those licenses unenforceable. Regulation could force permissive licensing. Regulation could add or remove IP protection. It's all conjured up by humans. Yes, it is unlikely that legislators, bought and paid for by big corporations, will ever change the rules to reduce help to big corporations, but it's at least humanly possible.