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Nobody seems to be complaining that it's bad music. What's the problem?
by Animats 1y ago
Nobody seems to be complaining that it's bad music. What's the problem?
- adastra22 1y agoWe’ve had engineered hits from committees dominating pop music for decades now. This doesn’t seem any less authentic, and apparently people like it. Really, what’s the difference between this and virtual bands like Gorillaz?
- viraptor 1y agoHave you actually listened to this band and to Gorillaz? There's really no comparison: velvet sundown is just boring - there's nothing there, there. There's no interesting motifs or story telling, no memorable riffs or solos, no surprising structure. > and apparently people like it. That remains to be seen. The early plays were bought to get the recommendations. (Tens of thousands of plays, but all within ~100 of each other for the less popular tracks) We really don't know how many people listened to this yet.
- Supermancho 1y ago> Have you actually listened to this band and to Gorillaz? There's really no comparison The comparison is that they are both fictional bands. The received popularity of the music is irrelevant. Did you not understand the point of the GP?
- dmamills 1y agoThe Gorillaz are actually real people though? You do realize The Archies didn't write "Sugar, Sugar"?
- viraptor 1y agoGorillaz is not a fictional band. Having cartoon characters doesn't make it fictional. We know who their creators are. Neither does Daft Punk become fictional when they put on the helmets. (No, I didn't get what comparison was being made. It's so different I didn't realise anyone would do that)
- Supermancho 1y agoWhat you consider fictional and anyone else considers fictional doesn't have to align. The point was clear, when interpreted in good faith. I understand you disagree, but that doesn't change what I think about the nature of persona.
- Macha 1y agoGorillaz (and e.g. vtubers) are effectively real people performing in digitally generated costumes. Especially Gorillaz, where it's not a secret who's behind it. This is closer to e.g. lip-syncing or vocaloids, though even they have more human input in the original composition.
- otrack 1y agoSo true.
- viraptor 1y agoIt is bad though. The tone is really similar on all the tracks, the solos are closer to guitar noodling, the structure is extremely predictable, etc. Ok, maybe not strictly bad - but definitely not good. Like, I'm not good and I feel like I could write a lot of similar stuff given enough effort and trying to sample bits of Led Zeppelin, Omega and others.
- RealStickman_ 1y agoIf you're knowledgeable enough in music theory most songs are predictable.
- viraptor 1y agoThere's "understood within the commonly used systems" predictable and there's "boring simple and repetitive" predictable. This band is both.
- amanaplanacanal 1y agoA lot of popular music is boring simple and repetitive, though.
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- tgv 1y agoSo I copy someone's music, publish it under my name, and then say "Nobody seems to be complaining that it's bad music. What's the problem?" First, people listen to absolute garbage. General taste is not a standard. Second, the quality of the music doesn't make other problems magically disappear. This music is built on enormous amounts of other people's music, and at the same time threatens to almost completely undermine music making, from amateur to megastar. That's a problem.
- deterministic 1y agoWhether music is good or bad is highly subjective. There is a high chance that I would find music you like to be crap and vise versa.