> Turning off the system just before a crash when it’s unavoidable allows them to say “the system wasn’t active when the crash occurred” In theory. Maybe. Ha

> Turning off the system just before a crash when it’s unavoidable allows them to say “the system wasn’t active when the crash occurred” In theory. Maybe. Have they ever done that? You're citing entirely different bad behavior. That's not evidence for my question. The article has claims of stonewalling and claiming no data at all and one case where they said the software wasn't even installed, but those are not the scenario I asked about. Calling me a tesla fanboy for wanting evidence for the correct claim instead of a completely different claim is pretty ridiculous. I'm not being pro tesla here. And the reason I said "pretty sure" is that people bring up that scenario over and over and over, but nobody has ever shown an example of it being real, despite having tons of examples of other tesla problems.