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Or rides BART. Of course, you then have to live near BART (or drive to BART) and then contend with the ZOMG GERMS!!1Eleven!

colmvp 14y ago
Well that and the fact that BART doesn't run 24/7 like New York's MTA. I have despised situations where I had to sprint to the BART station near closing time, lest I spend a ridiculous amount for a cab.
- heretohelp 14y ago
  Tbqh, this kills the bay area for me, socially speaking. NYC was way...way better in this respect.
  - colmvp 14y ago
    Absolutely. It's actually a terrible situation compared to the flexibility of NY, which had great livable areas in Queens and Brooklyn that still had fantastic access to public transit.
mycodebreaks 14y ago
Or you can ride Caltrain. The downside is the accidents on Caltrain tracks. It will literally take 2 hours to get to Mountain View from SF when there is an accident.
- richardjordan 14y ago
  ...or when (like the weekend of the first AngelHack event) you are delayed because your train hits a pedestrian (a horrendous sound by the way - you know exactly what's just happened immediately) then the replacement train is delayed because the next train in front hit a second pedestrian. They need to sort out the grade separation, it's just ridiculous, not to mention tragic.
  - mycodebreaks 14y ago
    Totally agree.I wonder why Caltrain is inefficient at times. What prevents Caltrain to do better in terms of keeping up with schedule? Also, there must be a way to keep fare reasonably cheaper than cost of driving a car to work.
    - richardjordan 14y ago
      It's a lack of willingness to invest in the infrastructure. Which is a chicken/egg thing - legislators won't vote for investment as voters don't support something that doesn't deliver value.
prodigal_erik 14y ago
Don't laugh, the old porous BART seats are objectively filthy and I'm glad they're being replaced (albeit slowly): http://www.baycitizen.org/transportation/interactive/intimate-look-bart-seat-mold-bacteria/ http://www.baycitizen.org/transportation/interactive/intimat... Me, I live near SOMA so I can stumble home when essentially everything but taxis is shut down.
tsotha 14y ago
BART is horrible. There aren't many trains and they never do maintenance on the rails so it's noisy as hell.

colmvp 14y ago

Well that and the fact that BART doesn't run 24/7 like New York's MTA. I have despised situations where I had to sprint to the BART station near closing time, lest I spend a ridiculous amount for a cab.

heretohelp 14y ago
Tbqh, this kills the bay area for me, socially speaking. NYC was way...way better in this respect.
- colmvp 14y ago
  Absolutely. It's actually a terrible situation compared to the flexibility of NY, which had great livable areas in Queens and Brooklyn that still had fantastic access to public transit.

mycodebreaks 14y ago

Or you can ride Caltrain. The downside is the accidents on Caltrain tracks. It will literally take 2 hours to get to Mountain View from SF when there is an accident.

richardjordan 14y ago
...or when (like the weekend of the first AngelHack event) you are delayed because your train hits a pedestrian (a horrendous sound by the way - you know exactly what's just happened immediately) then the replacement train is delayed because the next train in front hit a second pedestrian. They need to sort out the grade separation, it's just ridiculous, not to mention tragic.
- mycodebreaks 14y ago
  Totally agree.I wonder why Caltrain is inefficient at times. What prevents Caltrain to do better in terms of keeping up with schedule? Also, there must be a way to keep fare reasonably cheaper than cost of driving a car to work.
  - richardjordan 14y ago
    It's a lack of willingness to invest in the infrastructure. Which is a chicken/egg thing - legislators won't vote for investment as voters don't support something that doesn't deliver value.

prodigal_erik 14y ago

Don't laugh, the old porous BART seats are objectively filthy and I'm glad they're being replaced (albeit slowly): http://www.baycitizen.org/transportation/interactive/intimate-look-bart-seat-mold-bacteria/ http://www.baycitizen.org/transportation/interactive/intimat... Me, I live near SOMA so I can stumble home when essentially everything but taxis is shut down.

tsotha 14y ago

BART is horrible. There aren't many trains and they never do maintenance on the rails so it's noisy as hell.