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Steam's Wine thing works quite well. And yes you need to fiddle and do work arounds including giving up getting some games to work.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago
Yeah Proton covers a lot of titles. It’s mainly games that use the most draconian forms of anticheat that don’t work.
frollogaston 1y ago
Yeah, but it's not worth. Apparently the "gold" list on ProtonDB is games that allegedly work with tweaks. So like, drop in this random DLL and it might fix the game. I'm not gonna spend time on that. Last one I ever tried was https://www.protondb.com/app/813780 https://www.protondb.com/app/813780 with comments like "works perfectly, except multiplayer is completely broken" and the workaround has changed 3 times so far, also it lags no matter what. Gave up after stealing 4 different DLLs from Windows. It doesn't even have anticheat, it's just cause of some obscure math library.
- surgical_fire 1y ago
  > Yeah, but it's not worth. Apparently the "gold" list on ProtonDB is games that allegedly work with tweaks. So like, drop in this random DLL and it might fix the game. I'm not gonna spend time on that. I literally never had to do that. Most tweaking I needed to do was switching proton versions here and there (which is trivial to do).
- webstrand 1y ago
  I've been running opensuse+steam and I never had to tweak a dll to get a game running. Albeit that I don't exactly chase the latest AAA, the new releases that I have tried have worked well. Age of empires 2 used to work well, without needing any babying, so I'm not sure why it didn't for you. I will see about spinning it up.
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    It's the kind of problem where you think it's fixed, until it's not. Someone gave an expert insight last time I brought this up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44042049 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44042049
- imtringued 1y ago
  You're not supposed to "steal DLLs". You're supposed to find a proton fork like "glorious eggroll" that has patches specifically for your game.
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    This is a perfect example of the "small" tweaks people fail to mention when saying games work fine in Linux.
y-curious 1y ago
It's Linux, what software doesn't need fiddling to work?
- msgodel 1y ago
  Other than maybe iOS what OSes in general don't need fiddling these days to be usable?
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    Mac. And Windows evidently, even though MS treats you like dirt.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago

Yeah Proton covers a lot of titles. It’s mainly games that use the most draconian forms of anticheat that don’t work.

frollogaston 1y ago

Yeah, but it's not worth. Apparently the "gold" list on ProtonDB is games that allegedly work with tweaks. So like, drop in this random DLL and it might fix the game. I'm not gonna spend time on that. Last one I ever tried was https://www.protondb.com/app/813780 https://www.protondb.com/app/813780 with comments like "works perfectly, except multiplayer is completely broken" and the workaround has changed 3 times so far, also it lags no matter what. Gave up after stealing 4 different DLLs from Windows. It doesn't even have anticheat, it's just cause of some obscure math library.

surgical_fire 1y ago
> Yeah, but it's not worth. Apparently the "gold" list on ProtonDB is games that allegedly work with tweaks. So like, drop in this random DLL and it might fix the game. I'm not gonna spend time on that. I literally never had to do that. Most tweaking I needed to do was switching proton versions here and there (which is trivial to do).
webstrand 1y ago
I've been running opensuse+steam and I never had to tweak a dll to get a game running. Albeit that I don't exactly chase the latest AAA, the new releases that I have tried have worked well. Age of empires 2 used to work well, without needing any babying, so I'm not sure why it didn't for you. I will see about spinning it up.
- frollogaston 1y ago
  It's the kind of problem where you think it's fixed, until it's not. Someone gave an expert insight last time I brought this up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44042049 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44042049
imtringued 1y ago
You're not supposed to "steal DLLs". You're supposed to find a proton fork like "glorious eggroll" that has patches specifically for your game.
- frollogaston 1y ago
  This is a perfect example of the "small" tweaks people fail to mention when saying games work fine in Linux.

y-curious 1y ago

It's Linux, what software doesn't need fiddling to work?

msgodel 1y ago
Other than maybe iOS what OSes in general don't need fiddling these days to be usable?
- frollogaston 1y ago
  Mac. And Windows evidently, even though MS treats you like dirt.