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I love having the big 15 inch in my Tesla. Great for maps, watching Netflix or gaming while charging.

PaulHoule 1y ago
Personally as an amateur designer I love the idea of working on a huge canvas. Turning a car into a Gundam cockpit or a store into https://archive.ph/1k7Ui https://archive.ph/1k7Ui or lighting up the whole sky on a cloudy sky with a laser sound like a lot of fun to me, but subjecting other people to this is another thing.
- nottorp 1y ago
  It's okay, even "professional" designers don't seem to know the "usability" term :)
- bitwize 1y ago
  I had a dream in 2001 or so that I visited a smarthome with this kind of thing on every surface. Instantly reconfigurable decor. Then, as I was touring the home, it got hacked. And suddenly... Goatse. Goatse on every wall, every cabinet door, everywhere. I was soured on the idea of smarthomes, especially ones with display-monitor decor, ever after.
  - westmeal 1y ago
    For you it may be a con butt for others it's a wide open win.
  - goopypoop 1y ago
    I only played that Doom mod once
jvanderbot 1y ago
Tesla is the worst offender. I hate that my passenger has to close my map view to adjust climate or change music. Get rid of these things they are for the car makers not the car users.
- cchance 1y ago
  I mean thats your view, i don't see why i need to see a map fully if the turn instructions are always visible, lol and especially if the passengers not gonna be sitting in the fuckin AC window for an hour lol
- mathiaspoint 1y ago
  It's odd they don't give you a window manager and just pigeon hole you into a modal UI.
  - jvanderbot 1y ago
    Why am I using a window manager or modal UI? We have the perfect technology for 90% of what a car UI does: Buttons. For navigation, the map view is fine on a tablet-like device, but nobody can resist adding distractions to it.
- henvic 1y ago
  On Model 3/Y, when you pop up something else the next navigation direction starts showing on the top-left. I know it's not the same, but it's easy to miss it. And by far, it's not the worse offender. Some cars completely hide any instructions (looking at you, BYD)!
thebruce87m 1y ago
I agree. I do all of my charging at home but I still love the screen. I’ll go out for a coffee at lunch and catch up on my TV programs in comfort.
m463 1y ago
Older teslas were better (not perfect). You had nav and status on dashboard in front of you, dedicated physical controls for turn signals, shifting, wipers, autopilot, etc. Central display was for big nav map and configuration. There was also a "rim" around the display to rest your hand on when touching something. They still screwed it up with software updates. Touch targets got smaller and harder to hit in a moving car. Grey on white controls were harder to see, and frequently disappeared until until touched. Even dedicated controls like the passenger seat heater would disappear when the passenger got up. Controls rearranged themselves. They need to hire some masters of human factors like modern airplane cockpit designers. In a plane, a mistake is a lost plane + faa investigation. And listen to their customers, because most of the mistakes are blindingly obvious to everyone.
- yieldcrv 1y ago
  Ford Mustang Mach-E has a combination and a vertical screen like the older tesla models

Personally as an amateur designer I love the idea of working on a huge canvas. Turning a car into a Gundam cockpit or a store into https://archive.ph/1k7Ui https://archive.ph/1k7Ui or lighting up the whole sky on a cloudy sky with a laser sound like a lot of fun to me, but subjecting other people to this is another thing.

nottorp 1y ago
It's okay, even "professional" designers don't seem to know the "usability" term :)
bitwize 1y ago
I had a dream in 2001 or so that I visited a smarthome with this kind of thing on every surface. Instantly reconfigurable decor. Then, as I was touring the home, it got hacked. And suddenly... Goatse. Goatse on every wall, every cabinet door, everywhere. I was soured on the idea of smarthomes, especially ones with display-monitor decor, ever after.
- westmeal 1y ago
  For you it may be a con butt for others it's a wide open win.
- goopypoop 1y ago
  I only played that Doom mod once

jvanderbot 1y ago

Tesla is the worst offender. I hate that my passenger has to close my map view to adjust climate or change music. Get rid of these things they are for the car makers not the car users.

cchance 1y ago
I mean thats your view, i don't see why i need to see a map fully if the turn instructions are always visible, lol and especially if the passengers not gonna be sitting in the fuckin AC window for an hour lol
mathiaspoint 1y ago
It's odd they don't give you a window manager and just pigeon hole you into a modal UI.
- jvanderbot 1y ago
  Why am I using a window manager or modal UI? We have the perfect technology for 90% of what a car UI does: Buttons. For navigation, the map view is fine on a tablet-like device, but nobody can resist adding distractions to it.
henvic 1y ago
On Model 3/Y, when you pop up something else the next navigation direction starts showing on the top-left. I know it's not the same, but it's easy to miss it. And by far, it's not the worse offender. Some cars completely hide any instructions (looking at you, BYD)!

thebruce87m 1y ago

I agree. I do all of my charging at home but I still love the screen. I’ll go out for a coffee at lunch and catch up on my TV programs in comfort.

m463 1y ago

Older teslas were better (not perfect). You had nav and status on dashboard in front of you, dedicated physical controls for turn signals, shifting, wipers, autopilot, etc. Central display was for big nav map and configuration. There was also a "rim" around the display to rest your hand on when touching something. They still screwed it up with software updates. Touch targets got smaller and harder to hit in a moving car. Grey on white controls were harder to see, and frequently disappeared until until touched. Even dedicated controls like the passenger seat heater would disappear when the passenger got up. Controls rearranged themselves. They need to hire some masters of human factors like modern airplane cockpit designers. In a plane, a mistake is a lost plane + faa investigation. And listen to their customers, because most of the mistakes are blindingly obvious to everyone.

yieldcrv 1y ago
Ford Mustang Mach-E has a combination and a vertical screen like the older tesla models