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There are so many layers of crazy here but the one that strikes me most is attacking CNN for having a piece about the App. I.e. it's not just that reporting pol

by abeppu 1y ago

There are so many layers of crazy here but the one that strikes me most is attacking CNN for having a piece about the App. I.e. it's not just that reporting police activity is treated as a problem (it's not) but even an article discussing the way that some people are reporting police activity is a problem. > "CNN is willfully endangering the lives of officers who put their lives on the line every day and enabling dangerous criminal aliens to evade US law," If the engadget article gets enough eyeballs will they be also be willfully endangering lives? What about a really popular forum thread discussing that article?

EGreg 1y ago
This reminds me of how we have articles and handwringing about “our soldiers were attacked” in a country they had no authorization to even be. It is never discussed what they were actually doing there, but this is usually framed as in “we need more money to defend our men and women overseas”. Example: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/23/politics/niger-troops-lawmakers https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/23/politics/niger-troops-law... Several other leading senators also said they were in the dark about the operation in the western Africa nation. “I didn’t know there was 1,000 troops in Niger,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, told NBC’s Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press” Sunday. “They are going to brief us next week as to why they were there and what they were doing.” He continued: “I got a little insight on why they were there and what they were doing. I can say this to the families: They were there to defend America. They were there to help allies. They were there to prevent another platform to attack America and our allies.” https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/793895401/iraqi-parliament-votes-to-expel-u-s-troops-trump-threatens-sanctions https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/793895401/iraqi-parliament-vo... Even when a country’s leaders unanimously tell us to withdraw our troops, we say nah: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-withdrawing-iraq-agreement-lead-troop-reductions/story?id=114296946 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-withdrawing-iraq-agreemen...
- Henchman21 1y ago
  “Are we the baddies?” — Mitchell & Webb
crote 1y ago
> officers who put their lives on the line every day This sounds a lot less impressive when you realize that cops have the same fatal injury rate as landscaping supervisors or crane operators, less than half the rate of garbage collectors, and one-sixth the rate of logging workers. There's definitely a decent bit of risk involved in being a cop, but we're not exactly seeing Thin Green Line flags for landscapers either, are we?
- 93po 1y ago
  Cops should be proud to put their lives at risk. It should be part of the job expectations. You should care so much about the community you're supposed to serve that you'd be willing to make that sacrifice, even for a total stranger. The fact that none of this pride or expectation exists highlights that cops are cowards who get into policing for bad or selfish reasons and perpetuate systemic problems that harm millions.
  - Gud 1y ago
    No they shouldn’t. In an ideal world police are helping tourists find their way to their destination, helping grannies cross the street and writing the occasional traffic fine. Where I live, violent crime is rare.
    - 93po 1y ago
      Sure but that point we're idealizing a society where humans are just... not humans. The occasional violence is going to happen amongst humans for a long time, there is a lot of basic evolutionary wiring in us that is going to lead some section of the population into violence as teenagers or adults.
      - Gud 1y ago
        Yes, but the level of risk police should be exposed to can be negligible.
  - djexjms 1y ago
zeristor 1y ago
Antagonistic posts could well be by Russian misinformation. They’ve done this before and that’s what they do. They just need to do enough to trigger others off.
- DaSHacka 1y ago
  Russia wants the US to deport illegal immigrants and criminals? That sounds like the opposite of what they should want.

by abeppu 1y ago

EGreg 1y ago

This reminds me of how we have articles and handwringing about “our soldiers were attacked” in a country they had no authorization to even be. It is never discussed what they were actually doing there, but this is usually framed as in “we need more money to defend our men and women overseas”. Example: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/23/politics/niger-troops-lawmakers https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/23/politics/niger-troops-law... Several other leading senators also said they were in the dark about the operation in the western Africa nation. “I didn’t know there was 1,000 troops in Niger,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, told NBC’s Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press” Sunday. “They are going to brief us next week as to why they were there and what they were doing.” He continued: “I got a little insight on why they were there and what they were doing. I can say this to the families: They were there to defend America. They were there to help allies. They were there to prevent another platform to attack America and our allies.” https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/793895401/iraqi-parliament-votes-to-expel-u-s-troops-trump-threatens-sanctions https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/793895401/iraqi-parliament-vo... Even when a country’s leaders unanimously tell us to withdraw our troops, we say nah: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-withdrawing-iraq-agreement-lead-troop-reductions/story?id=114296946 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-withdrawing-iraq-agreemen...

Henchman21 1y ago
“Are we the baddies?” — Mitchell & Webb

crote 1y ago

> officers who put their lives on the line every day This sounds a lot less impressive when you realize that cops have the same fatal injury rate as landscaping supervisors or crane operators, less than half the rate of garbage collectors, and one-sixth the rate of logging workers. There's definitely a decent bit of risk involved in being a cop, but we're not exactly seeing Thin Green Line flags for landscapers either, are we?

93po 1y ago
Cops should be proud to put their lives at risk. It should be part of the job expectations. You should care so much about the community you're supposed to serve that you'd be willing to make that sacrifice, even for a total stranger. The fact that none of this pride or expectation exists highlights that cops are cowards who get into policing for bad or selfish reasons and perpetuate systemic problems that harm millions.
- Gud 1y ago
  No they shouldn’t. In an ideal world police are helping tourists find their way to their destination, helping grannies cross the street and writing the occasional traffic fine. Where I live, violent crime is rare.
  - 93po 1y ago
    Sure but that point we're idealizing a society where humans are just... not humans. The occasional violence is going to happen amongst humans for a long time, there is a lot of basic evolutionary wiring in us that is going to lead some section of the population into violence as teenagers or adults.
    - Gud 1y ago
      Yes, but the level of risk police should be exposed to can be negligible.
- djexjms 1y ago

zeristor 1y ago

Antagonistic posts could well be by Russian misinformation. They’ve done this before and that’s what they do. They just need to do enough to trigger others off.

DaSHacka 1y ago
Russia wants the US to deport illegal immigrants and criminals? That sounds like the opposite of what they should want.