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Yeah the sanctions will (not sarcastically) actually improve the world on a number of fronts. Increasing diversity of compute, forcing decentralization of manuf

Yeah the sanctions will (not sarcastically) actually improve the world on a number of fronts. Increasing diversity of compute, forcing decentralization of manufacturing, etc. etc.

Der_Einzige 1y ago
The sanctions will (not sarcastically) massively harm the world because Nvidia may no longer be a free money cheat code. I like having an easy economic strategy for investing...
- mensetmanusman 1y ago
  The world doesn’t have to optimize policy to increase the profits of a single American company.
- seanmcdirmid 1y ago
  Chinese stocks are pretty reasonable right now, if their market has dealt with the insider trader mess then it might be a good time to onboard. It isn’t for the feint of heart however. Markets used to be places to make money more smart (efficient allocation of capital) but have somehow degraded to index fund buys that track average economic growth of a few hot stocks that are expected to at least not get cold anytime soon.
seydor 1y ago
also increase smuggling, theft, espionage, crime, sabotage. There are much better ways to increase diversity
- mensetmanusman 1y ago
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  - brabel 1y ago
    Why would the Chinese self destructing be “amazingly helpful “ to the West? This sounds like spiteful vitriol.
    - SR2Z 1y ago
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      - elzbardico 1y ago
        Jesus. What a steady consumption of American neocon propaganda can do to a human brain! It's so sad!
        SR2Z 1y ago
        Do you even know what that word means? Do you think that Taiwan is gonna be just fine if the US packs up and leaves tomorrow? That things will work out great for the people living there? You can call it whatever you want. People who have fled shitty regimes have a much better sense for propaganda than you do, evidently.
        elzbardico 1y ago
        > Do you think that Taiwan is gonna be just fine if the US packs up and leaves tomorrow? I do. The World will be just fine as the American empire fades and the US becomes just another country. Even for the American people, for the average persons, it will be an improvement.
        SR2Z 1y ago
        Wow, that's a level of faith that even the people of Taiwan probably don't have in their neighbor :)
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- FilosofumRex 1y ago
  PRESIDENT TRUMP: "You don’t think we can. You don’t think we do that to them? We do. So we do a lot of things." https://singjupost.com/transcript-maria-bartiromo-interviews-president-trump-6-29-25/ https://singjupost.com/transcript-maria-bartiromo-interviews...
- hopelite 1y ago
  This is a mistaken belief. Sure you get all those negative aspects to being degrees, just like you get them under all other conditions … Chinese, Russian, Israeli espionage over the last ~80 years, anyone?… but you cannot actually get diversity without isolation that permits actual diversity to emerge. Diversity is not pouring oil into water and using the polluted oil-water in lieu of oil and also in lieu of oil. If you want actual diversity you need differences that are separated from each other. It is precisely what has been collapsing for the last 80+ years, actual real diversity, precisely because unique separate groups and clusters have been shattered, scattered, mixed, and polluted. Even AI is now accelerating this collapse of what is really a form of human biodiversity, or should it be called cultural diversity, as AI is causing a conformity of thought. There are several reports and papers on that phenomenon already. It’s absolutely ridiculous to claim that somehow those factors will increase over the prior situation simply because we increase actual, real diversity of unique things; not this fake, fraudulent, delusional diversity that has forced on us like a toxic sludge dump that has destroyed human diversity as everyone increasingly consumes the same “content” slop and eats the same food slop, and has the same cultural and musical slop.
- overfeed 1y ago
  Nit-pick: smuggling is when you import goods into a country without informing the relevant government bodies. When it comes to GPUs, it's one country that has declared an export ban. Chinese port authorities wont care if you declare you're importing a container with 16000 Nvidia GPUs as that's still legal.

Yeah the sanctions will (not sarcastically) actually improve the world on a number of fronts. Increasing diversity of compute, forcing decentralization of manufacturing, etc. etc.

Der_Einzige 1y ago

The sanctions will (not sarcastically) massively harm the world because Nvidia may no longer be a free money cheat code. I like having an easy economic strategy for investing...

mensetmanusman 1y ago
The world doesn’t have to optimize policy to increase the profits of a single American company.
seanmcdirmid 1y ago
Chinese stocks are pretty reasonable right now, if their market has dealt with the insider trader mess then it might be a good time to onboard. It isn’t for the feint of heart however. Markets used to be places to make money more smart (efficient allocation of capital) but have somehow degraded to index fund buys that track average economic growth of a few hot stocks that are expected to at least not get cold anytime soon.

seydor 1y ago

also increase smuggling, theft, espionage, crime, sabotage. There are much better ways to increase diversity

mensetmanusman 1y ago
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- brabel 1y ago
  Why would the Chinese self destructing be “amazingly helpful “ to the West? This sounds like spiteful vitriol.
  - SR2Z 1y ago
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    - elzbardico 1y ago
      Jesus. What a steady consumption of American neocon propaganda can do to a human brain! It's so sad!
      - SR2Z 1y ago
        Do you even know what that word means? Do you think that Taiwan is gonna be just fine if the US packs up and leaves tomorrow? That things will work out great for the people living there? You can call it whatever you want. People who have fled shitty regimes have a much better sense for propaganda than you do, evidently.
        elzbardico 1y ago
        > Do you think that Taiwan is gonna be just fine if the US packs up and leaves tomorrow? I do. The World will be just fine as the American empire fades and the US becomes just another country. Even for the American people, for the average persons, it will be an improvement.
        SR2Z 1y ago
        Wow, that's a level of faith that even the people of Taiwan probably don't have in their neighbor :)
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FilosofumRex 1y ago
PRESIDENT TRUMP: "You don’t think we can. You don’t think we do that to them? We do. So we do a lot of things." https://singjupost.com/transcript-maria-bartiromo-interviews-president-trump-6-29-25/ https://singjupost.com/transcript-maria-bartiromo-interviews...
hopelite 1y ago
This is a mistaken belief. Sure you get all those negative aspects to being degrees, just like you get them under all other conditions … Chinese, Russian, Israeli espionage over the last ~80 years, anyone?… but you cannot actually get diversity without isolation that permits actual diversity to emerge. Diversity is not pouring oil into water and using the polluted oil-water in lieu of oil and also in lieu of oil. If you want actual diversity you need differences that are separated from each other. It is precisely what has been collapsing for the last 80+ years, actual real diversity, precisely because unique separate groups and clusters have been shattered, scattered, mixed, and polluted. Even AI is now accelerating this collapse of what is really a form of human biodiversity, or should it be called cultural diversity, as AI is causing a conformity of thought. There are several reports and papers on that phenomenon already. It’s absolutely ridiculous to claim that somehow those factors will increase over the prior situation simply because we increase actual, real diversity of unique things; not this fake, fraudulent, delusional diversity that has forced on us like a toxic sludge dump that has destroyed human diversity as everyone increasingly consumes the same “content” slop and eats the same food slop, and has the same cultural and musical slop.
overfeed 1y ago
Nit-pick: smuggling is when you import goods into a country without informing the relevant government bodies. When it comes to GPUs, it's one country that has declared an export ban. Chinese port authorities wont care if you declare you're importing a container with 16000 Nvidia GPUs as that's still legal.