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The post claims with regard to the cost of a cloud backup that "Local backups still exist" - but that's a lie, there's no local backup option on iOS.

by gojomo 1y ago

ezfe 1y ago
iOS can back up to a Mac or PC.
- SequoiaHope 1y ago
  Sadly not Linux tho.
  - eigenspace 1y ago
    If you sync an iPhone to a Linux machine, you can then save your backups on Linux.
  - Nextgrid 1y ago
    "libimobiledevice" has CLI tools that can backup/restore iOS devices on Linux.
    - gojomo 1y ago
      Do such backups retain Signal message history - unlike Apple's native local backups to MacOS?
      - Nextgrid 1y ago
        This uses the same protocol as macOS, so same outcome. However (not sure if it helps in this case), keep in mind that different data is retained depending on whether the backup is encrypted or not (the tool supports encrypted backups too). So maybe check with encryption enabled and see if it carries over Signal messages?
        gojomo 1y ago
        It doesn't. Signal opts its data out of even encrypted local iPhone backups.
- gojomo 1y ago
  News to me! Where is this option described, ideally by Signal itself? If you are alleging that Apple's own local Finder/Itunes backup of an iPhone includes Signal messages, that's not true, against reasonable user expectations, by Signal's own design choices. Anyone who's counting on such local backups to save their histories is in for the same rude surprise I and many others have hit unaware: https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/1hgukpg/backup_and_restore_question_for_ios/ https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/1hgukpg/backup_and_...
  - gojomo 1y ago
    And note: Signal has been misleading users about options for iOS backups for a decade! In September 2015, users were told it was "on the roadmap": https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/905#issuecomment-143160772 https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/905#issuecomm... No option has ever existed on iOS, despite the recent announcement assuring users "Local backups still exist". They've never existed for iOS users!

The post claims with regard to the cost of a cloud backup that "Local backups still exist" - but that's a lie, there's no local backup option on iOS.

by gojomo 1y ago

The post claims with regard to the cost of a cloud backup that "Local backups still exist" - but that's a lie, there's no local backup option on iOS.

ezfe 1y ago

iOS can back up to a Mac or PC.

SequoiaHope 1y ago
Sadly not Linux tho.
- eigenspace 1y ago
  If you sync an iPhone to a Linux machine, you can then save your backups on Linux.
- Nextgrid 1y ago
  "libimobiledevice" has CLI tools that can backup/restore iOS devices on Linux.
  - gojomo 1y ago
    Do such backups retain Signal message history - unlike Apple's native local backups to MacOS?
    - Nextgrid 1y ago
      This uses the same protocol as macOS, so same outcome. However (not sure if it helps in this case), keep in mind that different data is retained depending on whether the backup is encrypted or not (the tool supports encrypted backups too). So maybe check with encryption enabled and see if it carries over Signal messages?
      - gojomo 1y ago
        It doesn't. Signal opts its data out of even encrypted local iPhone backups.
gojomo 1y ago
News to me! Where is this option described, ideally by Signal itself? If you are alleging that Apple's own local Finder/Itunes backup of an iPhone includes Signal messages, that's not true, against reasonable user expectations, by Signal's own design choices. Anyone who's counting on such local backups to save their histories is in for the same rude surprise I and many others have hit unaware: https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/1hgukpg/backup_and_restore_question_for_ios/ https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/1hgukpg/backup_and_...
- gojomo 1y ago
  And note: Signal has been misleading users about options for iOS backups for a decade! In September 2015, users were told it was "on the roadmap": https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/905#issuecomment-143160772 https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-iOS/issues/905#issuecomm... No option has ever existed on iOS, despite the recent announcement assuring users "Local backups still exist". They've never existed for iOS users!