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Fluoride based toothpaste does not increase dentist margin though right? > toothpaste is usually self-administered haha very funny. this is a toothbrush, unle

Fluoride based toothpaste does not increase dentist margin though right? > toothpaste is usually self-administered haha very funny. this is a toothbrush, unless you have someone brush your teeth it is always self administered

throawayonthe 1y ago
toothpaste is usually self-administered haha
- amelius 1y ago
  This could be an innovation: toothbrush with built-in toothpaste dispenser.
  - Someone 1y ago
    Already a product, typically/always marketed as a travel toothbrush.
  - meindnoch 1y ago
    From 2011: https://techcrunch.com/2011/03/22/actually-a-good-idea-toothbrush-with-built-in-toothpaste/ https://techcrunch.com/2011/03/22/actually-a-good-idea-tooth...
    - amelius 1y ago
      Nice find. However, I'm using an electric toothbrush. And the dispensing could be more automatic.
      - meindnoch 1y ago
        Ok, then: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nest-brush-self-dispensing-electric-toothbrush#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nest-brush-self-dispensin...
    - tdeck 1y ago
      I swear I had a toothbrush with a knob that dispensed toothpaste - AquaFresh I think - in the 1990s/early 2000s. But it's the kind of ephemeral product I can't find any record of.
wjnc 1y ago
First introduced in 1914! Suppressing a current practice is way harder than suppressing an innovation via buy-and-die.
- throwaway290 1y ago
  True.
yanko 1y ago
Fluoride as ingredient is questionable for human heath despite of what the marketing spread
- OKRainbowKid 1y ago
  Do you have any reputable evidence that fluorinated toothpaste is harmful (assuming normal usage)?
  - m101 1y ago
    This is not exactly your point but, there is data for fluoride not being good for pregnant women. Because of how ubiquitous fluorinated toothpaste is the argument for adding it to water supplies is significantly reduced.
  - throwaway290 1y ago
    I heard something about fluoride and gut, don't know if pseudoscience. Anyway benefit to teeth is more important
ceejayoz 1y ago
> Fluoride based toothpaste does not increase dentist margin though right? I mean, that's under attack now. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/10/g-s1-59452/hhs-rfk-fluoride-drinking-water-epa https://www.npr.org/2025/04/10/g-s1-59452/hhs-rfk-fluoride-d... "The Department of Health and Human Services is directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to make new recommendations on the addition of fluoride to U.S. water sources. HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has blamed the fluoridation of water for a number of health problems."
- MyOutfitIsVague 1y ago
  I don't care for the current admin nor RFK Jr, but this is a bit disingenuous. Floride toothpaste and floridated drinking water are different things, and RFK hasn't said anything about attacking the former. This jab doesn't have anything to do with the discussion at hand.
  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    Fearmongering about fluoride is unlikely to stop at the water supply. RFK has already made moves in this direction: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/fda-and-rfk-jr-aim-to-remove-fluoride-supplements-used-to-protect-kids-teeth https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/fda-and-rfk-jr-aim-to-re... > The products targeted by the FDA are sometimes recommended for children and teens who are at increased risk of tooth decay or cavities because of low fluoride in their local drinking water. They usually require a prescription from a pediatrician or dentist. Fluoride-based tablets and lozenges are designed to be chewed or swallowed. Companies also sell drops for babies and infants. And other politicians: > Last week, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced an investigation into the marketing of fluoride toothpastes by Colgate-Palmolive and Proctor and Gamble. A press release from his office described the companies’ promotions as “misleading, deceptive and dangerous.”
    - elcritch 1y ago
      It’s not fear mongering if fluoride actually does have negative effects. Well AMA just published a meta-analysis this year linking high fluoride level in drinking water to neurotoxicity in children and lower IQ. While there’s insufficient data to say it’s neurotoxic at the recommended levels it doesn’t seem unlikely. Rather it should be required to be proven safe first. https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/research/assessments/noncancer/completed/fluoride https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/research/assessments/noncancer/com... > The NTP monograph concluded, with moderate confidence, that higher levels of fluoride exposure, such as drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter, are associated with lower IQ in children. The NTP review was designed to evaluate total fluoride exposure from all sources and was not designed to evaluate the health effects of fluoridated drinking water alone. It is important to note that there were insufficient data to determine if the low fluoride level of 0.7 mg/L currently recommended for U.S. community water supplies has a negative effect on children’s IQ.
breezeTrowel 1y ago
Despite the headline, this is not a toothbrush. This is a "toothbrush-shaped ultrasound transducer". Mind you, I don't know why this wouldn't "increase dentist margin". This is an analysis tool that makes dentistry easier (just like dental X-rays).

throawayonthe 1y ago

toothpaste is usually self-administered haha

amelius 1y ago
This could be an innovation: toothbrush with built-in toothpaste dispenser.
- Someone 1y ago
  Already a product, typically/always marketed as a travel toothbrush.
- meindnoch 1y ago
  From 2011: https://techcrunch.com/2011/03/22/actually-a-good-idea-toothbrush-with-built-in-toothpaste/ https://techcrunch.com/2011/03/22/actually-a-good-idea-tooth...
  - amelius 1y ago
    Nice find. However, I'm using an electric toothbrush. And the dispensing could be more automatic.
    - meindnoch 1y ago
      Ok, then: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nest-brush-self-dispensing-electric-toothbrush#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nest-brush-self-dispensin...
  - tdeck 1y ago
    I swear I had a toothbrush with a knob that dispensed toothpaste - AquaFresh I think - in the 1990s/early 2000s. But it's the kind of ephemeral product I can't find any record of.

wjnc 1y ago

First introduced in 1914! Suppressing a current practice is way harder than suppressing an innovation via buy-and-die.

throwaway290 1y ago
True.

yanko 1y ago

Fluoride as ingredient is questionable for human heath despite of what the marketing spread

OKRainbowKid 1y ago
Do you have any reputable evidence that fluorinated toothpaste is harmful (assuming normal usage)?
- m101 1y ago
  This is not exactly your point but, there is data for fluoride not being good for pregnant women. Because of how ubiquitous fluorinated toothpaste is the argument for adding it to water supplies is significantly reduced.
- throwaway290 1y ago
  I heard something about fluoride and gut, don't know if pseudoscience. Anyway benefit to teeth is more important

ceejayoz 1y ago

> Fluoride based toothpaste does not increase dentist margin though right? I mean, that's under attack now. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/10/g-s1-59452/hhs-rfk-fluoride-drinking-water-epa https://www.npr.org/2025/04/10/g-s1-59452/hhs-rfk-fluoride-d... "The Department of Health and Human Services is directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to make new recommendations on the addition of fluoride to U.S. water sources. HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has blamed the fluoridation of water for a number of health problems."

MyOutfitIsVague 1y ago
I don't care for the current admin nor RFK Jr, but this is a bit disingenuous. Floride toothpaste and floridated drinking water are different things, and RFK hasn't said anything about attacking the former. This jab doesn't have anything to do with the discussion at hand.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  Fearmongering about fluoride is unlikely to stop at the water supply. RFK has already made moves in this direction: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/fda-and-rfk-jr-aim-to-remove-fluoride-supplements-used-to-protect-kids-teeth https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/fda-and-rfk-jr-aim-to-re... > The products targeted by the FDA are sometimes recommended for children and teens who are at increased risk of tooth decay or cavities because of low fluoride in their local drinking water. They usually require a prescription from a pediatrician or dentist. Fluoride-based tablets and lozenges are designed to be chewed or swallowed. Companies also sell drops for babies and infants. And other politicians: > Last week, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced an investigation into the marketing of fluoride toothpastes by Colgate-Palmolive and Proctor and Gamble. A press release from his office described the companies’ promotions as “misleading, deceptive and dangerous.”
  - elcritch 1y ago
    It’s not fear mongering if fluoride actually does have negative effects. Well AMA just published a meta-analysis this year linking high fluoride level in drinking water to neurotoxicity in children and lower IQ. While there’s insufficient data to say it’s neurotoxic at the recommended levels it doesn’t seem unlikely. Rather it should be required to be proven safe first. https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/research/assessments/noncancer/completed/fluoride https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/research/assessments/noncancer/com... > The NTP monograph concluded, with moderate confidence, that higher levels of fluoride exposure, such as drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter, are associated with lower IQ in children. The NTP review was designed to evaluate total fluoride exposure from all sources and was not designed to evaluate the health effects of fluoridated drinking water alone. It is important to note that there were insufficient data to determine if the low fluoride level of 0.7 mg/L currently recommended for U.S. community water supplies has a negative effect on children’s IQ.

breezeTrowel 1y ago

Despite the headline, this is not a toothbrush. This is a "toothbrush-shaped ultrasound transducer". Mind you, I don't know why this wouldn't "increase dentist margin". This is an analysis tool that makes dentistry easier (just like dental X-rays).