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> Apple Wallet is in the App store, and the F1 ad debacle directly violates App Store guidelines https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ https:
by burnte 1y ago
> Apple Wallet is in the App store, and the F1 ad debacle directly violates App Store guidelines https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/)
It would only violate App Store guidelines if Apple forces itself to agree to, and be bound by them. I think it's arguable that they probably do not, and so they didn't violate the guidelines because they're not bound by them.
- yencabulator 1y agoAnd how do you think EU will react to Apple giving themselves such privileges over others?
- kulahan 1y agoWouldn’t the guidelines apply to anyone using it who doesn’t have specific, legal, written exemptions? Not to say they don’t have it, but simply hand-waving “well they wrote it so it doesn’t have to apply to them” doesn’t seem quite as simple to me. I could be wrong!
- mlyle 1y agoThe whole point of an agreement is that it sets out what parties will do for each other, and what happens if there is a breach. Apple could already do things with the App Store without needing to agree to something to get Apple to let Apple do App Store things. Apple is not going to sue themselves for being in breach. etc. Just because there's e.g. a license agreement doesn't mean you need to agree to something, if you are somehow otherwise authorized to do the thing. E.g. fair use, or you have a pre-existing right or ownership, or whatever.
- kulahan 1y agoThanks, this is why I asked - I know law can be weird and somewhat counterintuitive, so I try not to assume much!
- jeffgreco 1y agoI think the premise is folks at Apple don’t have the occasion to be prompted to accept the terms.
- brookst 1y agoNo. Apple does not sign up for an Apple Developer account. Contracts with oneself aren't even meaningful. This is a common tech enthusiast fallacy: thinking that law is code. So there must be some "if app published, there must be a developer account, and if the developer account violates the rule the app must be removed". It just doesn't work that way. Apple has contracts with third parties to allow them to distribute apps in Apple's App Store. That's it.
- bryanrasmussen 1y agoWhile I am in agreement about the common tech enthusiast, or perhaps just dev, mental failings regarding law, I feel obligated to point out that App store guidelines written by the company running the app store are not law.
- thefounder 1y agoThis is the reason why anti-trust agencies don’t like this. Apple (with its App Store) is a gatekeeper and in Europe at least it should not favor its own apps over the others(i.e maps, payments, AI integrations etc). It should play fair.
- brookst 1y ago“Fair” meaning that an app that was designed from the ground up by the same people that created the device and operating system should get the same attention as a malware-ridden hack from six years ago? What does fair even mean here? Ensuring the advantages of vertical integration can’t be enjoyed by users?