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In some countries (notably Poland) Facebook is so burned into people's brains that you can't avoid this, and if you try, people and institutions will consider y

by jwr 1y ago

In some countries (notably Poland) Facebook is so burned into people's brains that you can't avoid this, and if you try, people and institutions will consider you a tinfoil hat weirdo and put pressure on you. Basically every kindergarten, primary school and high school will want to post pictures.

throwacct 1y ago
I don't care if they label me a weirdo. I agree with OP. Please refrain from posting any pictures of my children. Simple as that.
- chii 1y ago
  i deleted my facebook account over 15 years ago, and people at the time thought i was weird for doing so. I would feel vindicated today, except i dont, because neither my friends nor coworkers have followed, nor want to despite all evidence to the contrary!
mrweasel 1y ago
Same in Denmark. Some companies don't have websites, only a Facebook page, Facebook Marketplace has all but killed the local marketplace sites and pretty much anything related to organized sports and after school activities are coordinated on closed Facebook groups. The last one is the worst one. That's basically telling people that they will hold your child's social life hostage until you join Facebook. LinkedIn was used in a similar manor, to coordinate meetups for our local Cloud Native meetups, but the LinkedIn algorithms are much much worse than Facebooks, so people would get "You might be interested in this meetup" two weeks after the event. Facebook basically took over communication, no more mailing lists, no more updates on the website, if there even is a website. You just have to accept Facebook if you want to be notified about changes in scheduling, upcoming events or general information about your kids soccer practise.
mystifyingpoi 1y ago
For real. I've been searching for a swimming school for our daughter in Poland. The one that looked promising had a contract with clause, giving the school full rights to post any pictures of her in the swimming pool to social media. Of course, parents are strictly prohibited from making ANY photos at all. Fuck them.
- fn-mote 1y ago
  I hope you explained your feelings to an administrator. In the US, they would be completely clueless.
  - mystifyingpoi 1y ago
    Maybe I should have. There were more red flags in the contract draft. Like if I don't bring her to the lessons, I get no money back, but if they fail to do the lesson at all, they just keep the money and can reschedule. I have no clue why anyone signs this. I mean, I know, people don't care.
microtonal 1y ago
Basically every kindergarten, primary school and high school will want to post pictures. Here (NL) we get a form at the beginning of each school year to mark which uses of photos we find acceptable. E.g. we allow photos in the school portal (which is private and not owned by big tech), but not on Facebook, etc. It's the way it should be done, because there is not much burden on the parents. If the school also wants to put photos on social media, the burden should be on them to make sure that kids for which they don' have an ack are not put there. A bit harder was initially convincing my parents not to put pictures of their granddaughter on Facebook. They are understandably proud and want to show their friends. But they respect it. I think in all her life there has only been two violations of our policy. In both cases we contacted the person who published the photo/video and they took it offline. You just need enough 'weirdos' to make it normal. I know that there are other parents that agree, but not everyone has the gut to stand up to the social media tyranny, but will join if some people set an example.
- bojan 1y ago
  Our (NL) elementary school places pictures of the fun activities they do with kids on Instagram, but they blur children's faces, resulting in the photos straight out of the uncanny valley. I do wonder also if the blur effect they use is one of those that can easily be reversed. I need to check that one of these days.
  - squigz 1y ago
    > Our (NL) elementary school places pictures of the fun activities they do with kids on Instagram, but they blur children's faces, resulting in the photos straight out of the uncanny valley. Honestly what's the point at this point? Are parents not going to send their children to that school because they didn't see pictures of blurry-faced children having fun on the Internet, or is this just teachers wanting to post about their students?
    - jwr 1y ago
      It's a strange idea that schools need to do "marketing" and "promotion".

by jwr 1y ago

throwacct 1y ago

I don't care if they label me a weirdo. I agree with OP. Please refrain from posting any pictures of my children. Simple as that.

chii 1y ago
i deleted my facebook account over 15 years ago, and people at the time thought i was weird for doing so. I would feel vindicated today, except i dont, because neither my friends nor coworkers have followed, nor want to despite all evidence to the contrary!

mrweasel 1y ago

Same in Denmark. Some companies don't have websites, only a Facebook page, Facebook Marketplace has all but killed the local marketplace sites and pretty much anything related to organized sports and after school activities are coordinated on closed Facebook groups. The last one is the worst one. That's basically telling people that they will hold your child's social life hostage until you join Facebook. LinkedIn was used in a similar manor, to coordinate meetups for our local Cloud Native meetups, but the LinkedIn algorithms are much much worse than Facebooks, so people would get "You might be interested in this meetup" two weeks after the event. Facebook basically took over communication, no more mailing lists, no more updates on the website, if there even is a website. You just have to accept Facebook if you want to be notified about changes in scheduling, upcoming events or general information about your kids soccer practise.

mystifyingpoi 1y ago

For real. I've been searching for a swimming school for our daughter in Poland. The one that looked promising had a contract with clause, giving the school full rights to post any pictures of her in the swimming pool to social media. Of course, parents are strictly prohibited from making ANY photos at all. Fuck them.

fn-mote 1y ago
I hope you explained your feelings to an administrator. In the US, they would be completely clueless.
- mystifyingpoi 1y ago
  Maybe I should have. There were more red flags in the contract draft. Like if I don't bring her to the lessons, I get no money back, but if they fail to do the lesson at all, they just keep the money and can reschedule. I have no clue why anyone signs this. I mean, I know, people don't care.

microtonal 1y ago

Basically every kindergarten, primary school and high school will want to post pictures. Here (NL) we get a form at the beginning of each school year to mark which uses of photos we find acceptable. E.g. we allow photos in the school portal (which is private and not owned by big tech), but not on Facebook, etc. It's the way it should be done, because there is not much burden on the parents. If the school also wants to put photos on social media, the burden should be on them to make sure that kids for which they don' have an ack are not put there. A bit harder was initially convincing my parents not to put pictures of their granddaughter on Facebook. They are understandably proud and want to show their friends. But they respect it. I think in all her life there has only been two violations of our policy. In both cases we contacted the person who published the photo/video and they took it offline. You just need enough 'weirdos' to make it normal. I know that there are other parents that agree, but not everyone has the gut to stand up to the social media tyranny, but will join if some people set an example.

bojan 1y ago
Our (NL) elementary school places pictures of the fun activities they do with kids on Instagram, but they blur children's faces, resulting in the photos straight out of the uncanny valley. I do wonder also if the blur effect they use is one of those that can easily be reversed. I need to check that one of these days.
- squigz 1y ago
  > Our (NL) elementary school places pictures of the fun activities they do with kids on Instagram, but they blur children's faces, resulting in the photos straight out of the uncanny valley. Honestly what's the point at this point? Are parents not going to send their children to that school because they didn't see pictures of blurry-faced children having fun on the Internet, or is this just teachers wanting to post about their students?
  - jwr 1y ago
    It's a strange idea that schools need to do "marketing" and "promotion".