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Running on pavement, or whatever hard surface can be just fine, depending on the mechanics of the step landing. Also I imagine that trail running might raise p

Running on pavement, or whatever hard surface can be just fine, depending on the mechanics of the step landing. Also I imagine that trail running might raise potential to land awkwardly because the ground is all sorts of uneven. Pavement on the other hand is pretty predictable. They each have their charms, I suppose.

westurner 1y ago
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they prefer running on asphalt or concrete over a nice soft spongy track.
- bob6843789 1y ago
  I don't know. I've never run on a properly surfaced track. The one my high school had was essentially just loose limestone, at the time. Though that was ~25 years ago. I think it was upgraded since then. Besides, at that time, I was about capable of running half a lap. High school me was NOT athletic. As for now. I'm kind of 50/50 or maybe 60/40 in favour of a regular old road vs trails. I much prefer a road to something like a beach. Having to compensate for the constantly giving, lumpy ground that is sand, is kinda meh. I also seem to remember a study that found it was actually worse for injury risk, to run on sand. Landing on the ball of the foot means your leg isn't hyper extended, which means the impact is diffused since the knee and hip aren't completely straight at the moment of the strike. The whole hyper extended leg and heel-strike thing seems to be a consequence of raised-heel shoes. See my other post on this thread. Particularly the Harvard link. Without shoes the first impact is the ball, followed by the toes, then the heel, last (or sometimes not at all). The impact on the joints is actually lower this way than heel-striking with a raised heel shoe. You can kinda just try this, even by jumping in place and landing on your heel with a shoe, vs landing on the balls of your feet.
  - westurner 1y ago
    We were fortunate tohave a nice soft track for our track and field in high school. In middle school, on an asphalt track with painted lines, I took out a hurdle and a chunk of my hip learning to run hurdles. Sometimes people fall where they're running. The roughness of a soft track also scrapes but it's definitely nicer than road runs IMHO. I really doubt that we're evolutionarily tuned for running on hard surfaces. So, the control model for this study For how many generations have humans had what kinds of shoes

westurner 1y ago

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they prefer running on asphalt or concrete over a nice soft spongy track.

bob6843789 1y ago
I don't know. I've never run on a properly surfaced track. The one my high school had was essentially just loose limestone, at the time. Though that was ~25 years ago. I think it was upgraded since then. Besides, at that time, I was about capable of running half a lap. High school me was NOT athletic. As for now. I'm kind of 50/50 or maybe 60/40 in favour of a regular old road vs trails. I much prefer a road to something like a beach. Having to compensate for the constantly giving, lumpy ground that is sand, is kinda meh. I also seem to remember a study that found it was actually worse for injury risk, to run on sand. Landing on the ball of the foot means your leg isn't hyper extended, which means the impact is diffused since the knee and hip aren't completely straight at the moment of the strike. The whole hyper extended leg and heel-strike thing seems to be a consequence of raised-heel shoes. See my other post on this thread. Particularly the Harvard link. Without shoes the first impact is the ball, followed by the toes, then the heel, last (or sometimes not at all). The impact on the joints is actually lower this way than heel-striking with a raised heel shoe. You can kinda just try this, even by jumping in place and landing on your heel with a shoe, vs landing on the balls of your feet.
- westurner 1y ago
  We were fortunate tohave a nice soft track for our track and field in high school. In middle school, on an asphalt track with painted lines, I took out a hurdle and a chunk of my hip learning to run hurdles. Sometimes people fall where they're running. The roughness of a soft track also scrapes but it's definitely nicer than road runs IMHO. I really doubt that we're evolutionarily tuned for running on hard surfaces. So, the control model for this study For how many generations have humans had what kinds of shoes