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This is clickbait, there are at least two classes of non opioid painkillers in use since a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analgesic https://en.wikiped

This is clickbait, there are at least two classes of non opioid painkillers in use since a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analgesic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analgesic

gorjusborg 1y ago
I don't feel the title is misleading, but it may be a cultural language difference. The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief, and wouldn't include things like ibuprofen. That made me think immediately of a non-opioid pain blocker not just a pain reliever.
- perching_aix 1y ago
  Can you explain what the difference is? Would pain-relievers be substances that undo whatever is causing the pain, making them indirect, while painkillers act directly on the pain signals and their transmission?
- pbhjpbhj 1y ago
  >The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief Having claimed it was cultural. It have been helpful of you indicated which culture you felt this applied to. In UK I'd say painkillers includes ibuprofen and paracetamol. I suppose with ibuprofen it's also referred to as an anti-inflammatory. Not sure how else one would refer to paracetamol other than with synonyms (analgesics) or euphemism (pain relief tablet).
  - Eavolution 1y ago
    Paracetamol can be referred to as an antipyretic (fever reducing drug), and it's widely used for that in the same way ibuprofen is used as an anti inflammatory.
    - petesergeant 1y ago
      ibuprofen is also antipyretic
  - dcminter 1y ago
    Even in the UK it's not necessarily true. I wouldn't be surprised to hear it used that way, but I don't think my peer group in the UK would ever refer to NSAIDs as anything other than their brand or generic names. I particularly disagree with the parent comment that calls this click bait. The topic's intrinsically interesting to anybody who'd be lured in by that title; it doesn't need "bait" and we all know NSAIDs exist. The article's particularly good at citing its references inline, which I very much appreciated. Added this author to my RSS reader in fact.
    - croemer 1y ago
      The title is at the very least ambiguous. I expected an essay on the historic invention of NSAIDs/paracetamol as I also understand painkillers to include NSAIDs.
- petesergeant 1y ago
  > The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief, In which dialect of English do you think this is true?
  - gorjusborg 1y ago
    New England style American English
- nemo 1y ago
  >The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief Maybe there's some very specific, limited medical context where this is the case but in common parlance it's not at all the case, search for "painkiller" in an online shop like Amazon and you'll find a whole lot of Paracetamol/Tylenol, and various NSAIDs (aspirin/ibuprofen) and manufacturers of those drugs actually use that specific term.
- croemer 1y ago
  All dictionaries I've looked at (MW, OED, Cambridge) define painkiller broadly as any drug that relieves pain. Do you have a source for your claim that it's used narrowly? Here's mine: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/painkiller https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/painkiller
- gbalint 1y ago
  How about metamizole? That is a painkiller (at least according to wikipedia), and it is definitely not an opioid or an NSAID.
EasyMark 1y ago
It might be clickbait, but it's also pretty big news of a fairly universal topic and not in the vein of "This one secret that your doctor doesn't want to know!"

This is clickbait, there are at least two classes of non opioid painkillers in use since a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analgesic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analgesic

gorjusborg 1y ago

I don't feel the title is misleading, but it may be a cultural language difference. The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief, and wouldn't include things like ibuprofen. That made me think immediately of a non-opioid pain blocker not just a pain reliever.

perching_aix 1y ago
Can you explain what the difference is? Would pain-relievers be substances that undo whatever is causing the pain, making them indirect, while painkillers act directly on the pain signals and their transmission?
pbhjpbhj 1y ago
>The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief Having claimed it was cultural. It have been helpful of you indicated which culture you felt this applied to. In UK I'd say painkillers includes ibuprofen and paracetamol. I suppose with ibuprofen it's also referred to as an anti-inflammatory. Not sure how else one would refer to paracetamol other than with synonyms (analgesics) or euphemism (pain relief tablet).
- Eavolution 1y ago
  Paracetamol can be referred to as an antipyretic (fever reducing drug), and it's widely used for that in the same way ibuprofen is used as an anti inflammatory.
  - petesergeant 1y ago
    ibuprofen is also antipyretic
- dcminter 1y ago
  Even in the UK it's not necessarily true. I wouldn't be surprised to hear it used that way, but I don't think my peer group in the UK would ever refer to NSAIDs as anything other than their brand or generic names. I particularly disagree with the parent comment that calls this click bait. The topic's intrinsically interesting to anybody who'd be lured in by that title; it doesn't need "bait" and we all know NSAIDs exist. The article's particularly good at citing its references inline, which I very much appreciated. Added this author to my RSS reader in fact.
  - croemer 1y ago
    The title is at the very least ambiguous. I expected an essay on the historic invention of NSAIDs/paracetamol as I also understand painkillers to include NSAIDs.
petesergeant 1y ago
> The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief, In which dialect of English do you think this is true?
- gorjusborg 1y ago
  New England style American English
nemo 1y ago
>The term 'painkiller' is reserved for strong pain relief Maybe there's some very specific, limited medical context where this is the case but in common parlance it's not at all the case, search for "painkiller" in an online shop like Amazon and you'll find a whole lot of Paracetamol/Tylenol, and various NSAIDs (aspirin/ibuprofen) and manufacturers of those drugs actually use that specific term.
croemer 1y ago
All dictionaries I've looked at (MW, OED, Cambridge) define painkiller broadly as any drug that relieves pain. Do you have a source for your claim that it's used narrowly? Here's mine: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/painkiller https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/painkiller
gbalint 1y ago
How about metamizole? That is a painkiller (at least according to wikipedia), and it is definitely not an opioid or an NSAID.

EasyMark 1y ago

It might be clickbait, but it's also pretty big news of a fairly universal topic and not in the vein of "This one secret that your doctor doesn't want to know!"