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I can't understand why people are still using proprietary software like Windows or OSX when superior free software exists. It's a testament to the hidden monopo

I can't understand why people are still using proprietary software like Windows or OSX when superior free software exists. It's a testament to the hidden monopolizing forces which exists in our society.

duped 1y ago
Because the free software isn't superior
- jongjong 1y ago
  Then why is it that every person I know or even heard about who switched to Linux never went back to OSX or Windows? The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives. Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu.
  - duped 1y ago
    OSX hasn't existed for five years and hasn't been publicly advertised as that for much longer, so your sampling may be biased. > The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives. No, it's the availability of daily software that people use, like Excel, Word, Outlook, etc. > Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu. I daily drive a Linux distro. I don't pretend it's better for the average human than MacOS or Windows. The market reflects that. Clearly, you've never worked in an office where the only thing available is a Windows or Mac laptop because those are what IT provides and that's where your customers/users are.
  - protocolture 1y ago
    Are you kidding? By the time you get through the first half of the requirements document of most windows customers, OSX and Linux alternatives have already been thoroughly ruled out.
    - metaltyphoon 1y ago
      When it starts with the phrase “FIP-S compliant”, hardly anyone is wants to do that on Linux.
      - guappa 1y ago
        You live in a parallel universe where wolfssl doesn't exist?
        metaltyphoon 1y ago
        Oh I know about this, but tell what’s simpler: Embed wolfssl per app / make it work with openssl as a module (for system wide usage) or turn a registry key to true?
      - m01 1y ago
        It seems that both RHEL [1] and Ubuntu Pro have docs on FIPS, so it looks like the distribution vendors have thought about this problem, at least for paying customers. Might you be able to sketch out what the problem with FIPS compliance on Linux is? [1] https://access.redhat.com/compliance/fips https://access.redhat.com/compliance/fips [2] https://ubuntu.com/security/fips https://ubuntu.com/security/fips
  - not_a_bot_4sho 1y ago
    I honestly cannot tell if this is brilliant sarcasm or digital veganism. I hope the former, because it's perfect lol
    - h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 1y ago
      You could say we've been "duped".
  - benhurmarcel 1y ago
    > Then why is it that every person I know or even heard about who switched to Linux never went back to OSX or Windows? I used Linux on my main desktop for about 10 years, then went back to Windows. There, you've heard of one.
_carbyau_ 1y ago
Superior for who? What you value is not what everyone values. Also, I'd argue that the monopolizing forces are not so much hidden as targeted.
ChocolateGod 1y ago
Linux only just gained support for things like HDR, a decade after macOS or Windows, and the main desktop shipped by the main distributions doesn't even natively support tray icons. I'm not sure it's superior. Although GNOMEs workspace implementation imho is vastly superior to both Windows and macOS
- deathanatos 1y ago
  > and the main desktop shipped by the main distributions doesn't even natively support tray icons. …while perhaps there's a distribution out there that I'm unaware of not having tray icons … I've had tray icons since the first time I used Linux, and I still do?
  - ChocolateGod 1y ago
    Fedora.

duped 1y ago

Because the free software isn't superior

jongjong 1y ago
Then why is it that every person I know or even heard about who switched to Linux never went back to OSX or Windows? The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives. Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu.
- duped 1y ago
  OSX hasn't existed for five years and hasn't been publicly advertised as that for much longer, so your sampling may be biased. > The only thing which made them use OSX or Windows in the first place was their ignorance of alternatives. No, it's the availability of daily software that people use, like Excel, Word, Outlook, etc. > Clearly you've never used any consumer-grade Linux distro like Ubuntu. I daily drive a Linux distro. I don't pretend it's better for the average human than MacOS or Windows. The market reflects that. Clearly, you've never worked in an office where the only thing available is a Windows or Mac laptop because those are what IT provides and that's where your customers/users are.
- protocolture 1y ago
  Are you kidding? By the time you get through the first half of the requirements document of most windows customers, OSX and Linux alternatives have already been thoroughly ruled out.
  - metaltyphoon 1y ago
    When it starts with the phrase “FIP-S compliant”, hardly anyone is wants to do that on Linux.
    - guappa 1y ago
      You live in a parallel universe where wolfssl doesn't exist?
      - metaltyphoon 1y ago
        Oh I know about this, but tell what’s simpler: Embed wolfssl per app / make it work with openssl as a module (for system wide usage) or turn a registry key to true?
    - m01 1y ago
      It seems that both RHEL [1] and Ubuntu Pro have docs on FIPS, so it looks like the distribution vendors have thought about this problem, at least for paying customers. Might you be able to sketch out what the problem with FIPS compliance on Linux is? [1] https://access.redhat.com/compliance/fips https://access.redhat.com/compliance/fips [2] https://ubuntu.com/security/fips https://ubuntu.com/security/fips
- not_a_bot_4sho 1y ago
  I honestly cannot tell if this is brilliant sarcasm or digital veganism. I hope the former, because it's perfect lol
  - h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 1y ago
    You could say we've been "duped".
- benhurmarcel 1y ago
  > Then why is it that every person I know or even heard about who switched to Linux never went back to OSX or Windows? I used Linux on my main desktop for about 10 years, then went back to Windows. There, you've heard of one.

_carbyau_ 1y ago

Superior for who? What you value is not what everyone values. Also, I'd argue that the monopolizing forces are not so much hidden as targeted.

ChocolateGod 1y ago

Linux only just gained support for things like HDR, a decade after macOS or Windows, and the main desktop shipped by the main distributions doesn't even natively support tray icons. I'm not sure it's superior. Although GNOMEs workspace implementation imho is vastly superior to both Windows and macOS

deathanatos 1y ago
> and the main desktop shipped by the main distributions doesn't even natively support tray icons. …while perhaps there's a distribution out there that I'm unaware of not having tray icons … I've had tray icons since the first time I used Linux, and I still do?
- ChocolateGod 1y ago
  Fedora.