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I think we are inferring causation from correlation, but anyways cars are a really divisive and polarizing issue in NYC. Many who can afford it are addicted to

I think we are inferring causation from correlation, but anyways cars are a really divisive and polarizing issue in NYC. Many who can afford it are addicted to the comfort of cars vs the bus or subway, especially in summer. Meanwhile those who can't really have no need for cars and so never even learn to drive, exponentiated by college students and fresh transplants. Many of this group hate cars or are even afraid of them. Neither group will ever be able to convince the other - comfort and fear have incredible staying power and are large drivers of political inertia.

SoftTalker 1y ago
I saw it mostly as "poor people voted for the socialist" which isn't surprising. If you include young people, then that isn't surprising either.
- peakay 1y ago
  poor people voted for cuomo
- Analemma_ 1y ago
  Literal Wall Street went 3:1 for Mamdani [0]. [0]: https://64.media.tumblr.com/4401d342f92344aa47da9469abd397ca/235a305e43df32db-16/s1280x1920/eaa41d64dfcf4c15639279e3f8bd43cc5bf2cfff.pnj https://64.media.tumblr.com/4401d342f92344aa47da9469abd397ca...
  - freejazz 1y ago
    Lol that's more likely dimes square, bankers don't really live in Fidi for the most part.
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- dml2135 1y ago
  I'm not sure where you are getting this from -- many of the poorer areas of the city, such as the Bronx, went to Cuomo.
- ThrowawayR2 1y ago
  > "If you include young people, then that isn't surprising either." Meanwhile, from actual poll results: "A new trend has emerged in American politics: The very youngest voters — 18-to-24-year-olds — say they're more conservative than the cohort that's just older, according to the latest Harvard Youth Poll." https://www.axios.com/2024/09/28/gen-z-men-conservative-poll https://www.axios.com/2024/09/28/gen-z-men-conservative-poll in September 2024. "According to a new Yale Youth Poll, a survey affiliated with the Yale Institution for Social and Political Studies, voters aged 18 to 21 lean Republican by 11.7 points when asked who they would support in the 2026 Congressional elections, while voters aged 22 to 29 favored Democrats by 6.4 points." https://www.newsweek.com/republican-support-poll-young-gen-z-2060258 https://www.newsweek.com/republican-support-poll-young-gen-z... in April 2025. This is an unwelcome trend that bodes ill for Democrats unless they wake up and smell the coffee soon.
- bko 1y ago
  Actually the opposite. Cuomo <$50k by +19 Mamdani 50k-100k +6 Mamdani 100k+ +13 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/24/us/elections/nyc-mayor-primary-results-precinct-map.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/24/us/elections/...
JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> Many who can afford it are addicted to the comfort of cars vs the bus or subway, especially in summer Car ownership in New York tends to signify someone from lower income and wealth brackets. Not higher.
- panarky 1y ago
  I love a good counter-intuitive anecdote as much as anybody, but I think you'll need to back up this assertion with some evidence. The expenses associated with owning a car in the city are prohibitive for lower-income residents. These costs extend beyond car payments and the highest insurance rates in the nation to include congestion charges, tolls and exorbitant parking fees, which can run hundreds of dollars per month.

SoftTalker 1y ago

I saw it mostly as "poor people voted for the socialist" which isn't surprising. If you include young people, then that isn't surprising either.

peakay 1y ago
poor people voted for cuomo
Analemma_ 1y ago
Literal Wall Street went 3:1 for Mamdani [0]. [0]: https://64.media.tumblr.com/4401d342f92344aa47da9469abd397ca/235a305e43df32db-16/s1280x1920/eaa41d64dfcf4c15639279e3f8bd43cc5bf2cfff.pnj https://64.media.tumblr.com/4401d342f92344aa47da9469abd397ca...
- freejazz 1y ago
  Lol that's more likely dimes square, bankers don't really live in Fidi for the most part.
- deleted 1y ago
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dml2135 1y ago
I'm not sure where you are getting this from -- many of the poorer areas of the city, such as the Bronx, went to Cuomo.
ThrowawayR2 1y ago
> "If you include young people, then that isn't surprising either." Meanwhile, from actual poll results: "A new trend has emerged in American politics: The very youngest voters — 18-to-24-year-olds — say they're more conservative than the cohort that's just older, according to the latest Harvard Youth Poll." https://www.axios.com/2024/09/28/gen-z-men-conservative-poll https://www.axios.com/2024/09/28/gen-z-men-conservative-poll in September 2024. "According to a new Yale Youth Poll, a survey affiliated with the Yale Institution for Social and Political Studies, voters aged 18 to 21 lean Republican by 11.7 points when asked who they would support in the 2026 Congressional elections, while voters aged 22 to 29 favored Democrats by 6.4 points." https://www.newsweek.com/republican-support-poll-young-gen-z-2060258 https://www.newsweek.com/republican-support-poll-young-gen-z... in April 2025. This is an unwelcome trend that bodes ill for Democrats unless they wake up and smell the coffee soon.
bko 1y ago
Actually the opposite. Cuomo <$50k by +19 Mamdani 50k-100k +6 Mamdani 100k+ +13 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/24/us/elections/nyc-mayor-primary-results-precinct-map.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/24/us/elections/...

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> Many who can afford it are addicted to the comfort of cars vs the bus or subway, especially in summer Car ownership in New York tends to signify someone from lower income and wealth brackets. Not higher.

panarky 1y ago
I love a good counter-intuitive anecdote as much as anybody, but I think you'll need to back up this assertion with some evidence. The expenses associated with owning a car in the city are prohibitive for lower-income residents. These costs extend beyond car payments and the highest insurance rates in the nation to include congestion charges, tolls and exorbitant parking fees, which can run hundreds of dollars per month.