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this is great news. but... i fear the new avenues of business sought by companies that operate for-profit prisons - i don't expect they'll just eat the losses

this is great news. but... i fear the new avenues of business sought by companies that operate for-profit prisons - i don't expect they'll just eat the losses of declining populations in their main moneymakers, and we're already starting to see them work on detention facilities for DHS etc.

throwaway48476 1y ago
Detention facilities for deportations is an inherently fast shrinking population.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
  at some point, maybe. i have no trust in DHS whatsoever.
  - pessimizer 1y ago
    But do you think they'd start letting more people into the country, just to charge to detain and deport them? It's actually sort of an ideal solution. Big business gets back labor that it can threaten to deport if it demands anything, then they can clean up on the public-private deportations. Factory managers could send ICE a list of their most annoying employees to visit. It would be so 80's, I almost typed "the INS."
    - GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
      what you're describing is more or less already happening. don't think h1b visaholders won't become a target.
      - throwaway48476 1y ago
        You think if an H1B is canceled that they would illegally overstay?
FireBeyond 1y ago
> i don't expect they'll just eat the losses of declining populations in their main moneymakers Most of them (probably all) have contracts that stipulate they get paid per bed they provide, whether or not it's occupied.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
  sure, but if the beds are empty, they're less likely to get new contracts.
tjpnz 1y ago
Just get a few more Ciavarellas[0] elected and boom! Kids for Cash 2.0 - Little Timmy will never mouth off in class ever again. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Ciavarella https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Ciavarella
Hilift 1y ago
Prisons are ancient history. The latest chapter is the tough on crime states have glorious high speed pursuits. All those Challengers blasting away at 140 mph in the breakdown lane, rollover 10-50 pits, suspects at gunpoint, now published in 1080 on YouTube for some state and county agencies. A single pursuit may result in two or three disabled police vehicles that need to be replaced. A prepped vehicle is over $100k. In 2024 Arkansas had 500+ high speed pursuits, resulting in three suspect deaths and three civilian deaths. Additionally, nine civilians, 14 troopers, and 83 suspects were injured. and easily over 1,000 vehicles trashed. Each of these videos puts most film car chases to shame. There must be 20 channels dedicated to this. Participating states I've seen are mostly Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Michigan, and California. But any agency can publish a video, particularly if there is a shooting death and an official investigation.

throwaway48476 1y ago

Detention facilities for deportations is an inherently fast shrinking population.

GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
at some point, maybe. i have no trust in DHS whatsoever.
- pessimizer 1y ago
  But do you think they'd start letting more people into the country, just to charge to detain and deport them? It's actually sort of an ideal solution. Big business gets back labor that it can threaten to deport if it demands anything, then they can clean up on the public-private deportations. Factory managers could send ICE a list of their most annoying employees to visit. It would be so 80's, I almost typed "the INS."
  - GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
    what you're describing is more or less already happening. don't think h1b visaholders won't become a target.
    - throwaway48476 1y ago
      You think if an H1B is canceled that they would illegally overstay?

FireBeyond 1y ago

> i don't expect they'll just eat the losses of declining populations in their main moneymakers Most of them (probably all) have contracts that stipulate they get paid per bed they provide, whether or not it's occupied.

GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
sure, but if the beds are empty, they're less likely to get new contracts.

tjpnz 1y ago

Just get a few more Ciavarellas[0] elected and boom! Kids for Cash 2.0 - Little Timmy will never mouth off in class ever again. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Ciavarella https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Ciavarella

Hilift 1y ago

Prisons are ancient history. The latest chapter is the tough on crime states have glorious high speed pursuits. All those Challengers blasting away at 140 mph in the breakdown lane, rollover 10-50 pits, suspects at gunpoint, now published in 1080 on YouTube for some state and county agencies. A single pursuit may result in two or three disabled police vehicles that need to be replaced. A prepped vehicle is over $100k. In 2024 Arkansas had 500+ high speed pursuits, resulting in three suspect deaths and three civilian deaths. Additionally, nine civilians, 14 troopers, and 83 suspects were injured. and easily over 1,000 vehicles trashed. Each of these videos puts most film car chases to shame. There must be 20 channels dedicated to this. Participating states I've seen are mostly Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Michigan, and California. But any agency can publish a video, particularly if there is a shooting death and an official investigation.