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> Everyone who uses these tools is just building prototypes. But also I think that's kinda the point. Like for example we have to do a UI redesign of an app my

> Everyone who uses these tools is just building prototypes. But also I think that's kinda the point. Like for example we have to do a UI redesign of an app my company is building and our "wireframes" are just v0 projects my PO created in one afternoon. I think wireframing is where these tools really shine. It's gives you roughly the same ideas as building a wireframe in Figma but it's way less work and you end up with higher fidelity wireframes.Like sure if I were to peek at the code under the hood I'm certain it's close to dogshit but the code doesn't really matter at that stage.

asdev 1y ago
Any serious company has a brand/design system which Lovable can't leverage well, thus needs designers to use in Figma. Either way, my point is the customer LTV will be super low for use cases like this.
- lbreakjai 1y ago
  I haven't tried with lovable, but gemini studio is fully capable of following a styleguide based on a screenshot, which is probably the crudest and least refined protocol I could think of. I'm sure there's already integrations somewhere that could allow a designer to specify a bunch of brand colours, to generate a styleguide out of it in plain english, and get a working prototype out of it.
  - marcosdumay 1y ago
    A design system is not "following a styleguide based on a screenshot". A design system is an ontology of UI elements that your software has to adhere to, with several rules about how those elements are or aren't allowed to interact. Following a styleguide will make your software break as soon as the design system gets updated.
    - Spivak 1y ago
      I think you have an idealistic view of what design systems are in practice once filtered down to the developer (or AI) who is tasked with implementing them. You consider yourself lucky if the devs use the right fonts, icons, and colors. Behaviors will be whatever component library they're using does.
bodge5000 1y ago
I guess you could argue its just marketing, but if that's the case they're not building "the last software" as they claim. In fact they become entirely reliant on people building more software.

asdev 1y ago

Any serious company has a brand/design system which Lovable can't leverage well, thus needs designers to use in Figma. Either way, my point is the customer LTV will be super low for use cases like this.

lbreakjai 1y ago
I haven't tried with lovable, but gemini studio is fully capable of following a styleguide based on a screenshot, which is probably the crudest and least refined protocol I could think of. I'm sure there's already integrations somewhere that could allow a designer to specify a bunch of brand colours, to generate a styleguide out of it in plain english, and get a working prototype out of it.
- marcosdumay 1y ago
  A design system is not "following a styleguide based on a screenshot". A design system is an ontology of UI elements that your software has to adhere to, with several rules about how those elements are or aren't allowed to interact. Following a styleguide will make your software break as soon as the design system gets updated.
  - Spivak 1y ago
    I think you have an idealistic view of what design systems are in practice once filtered down to the developer (or AI) who is tasked with implementing them. You consider yourself lucky if the devs use the right fonts, icons, and colors. Behaviors will be whatever component library they're using does.

bodge5000 1y ago

I guess you could argue its just marketing, but if that's the case they're not building "the last software" as they claim. In fact they become entirely reliant on people building more software.