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Andrew Cuomo Says Zohran Mamdani "Won" NYC Democratic Primary

17 points by hackyhacky 1y ago

clipsy 1y ago
The submitter editorialized the title to add scare quotes; the actual title is "Andrew Cuomo says Zohran Mamdani won NYC Democratic primary for mayor – live updates" Also, it's a live updates page, not the greatest link.
- sandspar 1y ago
  Curiously the BBC also used quotes around "won". >In a speech to supporters, Cuomo said Mamdani - a 33-year-old democratic socialist - had "won" the primary race and that "we are going to take a look and make some decisions". Perhaps there's a reasonable explanation. I think news agencies are using the quotes because a) it's a close race and counting will continue next week, and b) Cuomo may have been referring to the primary race but not to the general election. From the BBC: >In an interview with the New York Times, Cuomo said he was still examining whether he would run in the general election in November on the independent line. >"I said he won the primary election," Cuomo told the outlet. "I said I wanted to look at the numbers and the ranked-choice voting to decide about what to do in the future, because I'm also on an independent line." I haven't been following the race but maybe this is why the news agencies are using quotes around won. Unless any other commenters know a better reason? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg6yg7x467o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg6yg7x467o
  - dragonwriter 1y ago
    > Curiously the BBC also used quotes around "won". Journalistically, that can be appropriate to indicate that that word was used by Cuomo; distinguishing direct quotation from paraphrase or interpretation of intent. OTOH, on HN, the policy is to use the source headline unless there is a strong reason not to, using a paraphrase of a bullet point in the article-top summary is dubious, even if that bullet point is the main reason the poster was inspired to post the link.
    - hackyhacky 1y ago
      I'm the submitter. I used the verbatim source headline at the time of posting. Since then, the source headline has been changed.
  - milowata 1y ago
    The primary is ranked choice, so no candidate will win until they have over 50% of the votes. Since neither has that now, there will be a series of rounds of distributing choices to candidates. Cuomo is basically saying “he will probably win” based on the sizable lead Mamdani has, but it’s not technically over yet.
aaron695 1y ago
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carabiner 1y ago
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- dang 1y ago
  Please don't do this here.

17 points by hackyhacky 1y ago

The submitter editorialized the title to add scare quotes; the actual title is "Andrew Cuomo says Zohran Mamdani won NYC Democratic primary for mayor – live updates" Also, it's a live updates page, not the greatest link.

sandspar 1y ago
Curiously the BBC also used quotes around "won". >In a speech to supporters, Cuomo said Mamdani - a 33-year-old democratic socialist - had "won" the primary race and that "we are going to take a look and make some decisions". Perhaps there's a reasonable explanation. I think news agencies are using the quotes because a) it's a close race and counting will continue next week, and b) Cuomo may have been referring to the primary race but not to the general election. From the BBC: >In an interview with the New York Times, Cuomo said he was still examining whether he would run in the general election in November on the independent line. >"I said he won the primary election," Cuomo told the outlet. "I said I wanted to look at the numbers and the ranked-choice voting to decide about what to do in the future, because I'm also on an independent line." I haven't been following the race but maybe this is why the news agencies are using quotes around won. Unless any other commenters know a better reason? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg6yg7x467o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg6yg7x467o
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  > Curiously the BBC also used quotes around "won". Journalistically, that can be appropriate to indicate that that word was used by Cuomo; distinguishing direct quotation from paraphrase or interpretation of intent. OTOH, on HN, the policy is to use the source headline unless there is a strong reason not to, using a paraphrase of a bullet point in the article-top summary is dubious, even if that bullet point is the main reason the poster was inspired to post the link.
  - hackyhacky 1y ago
    I'm the submitter. I used the verbatim source headline at the time of posting. Since then, the source headline has been changed.
- milowata 1y ago
  The primary is ranked choice, so no candidate will win until they have over 50% of the votes. Since neither has that now, there will be a series of rounds of distributing choices to candidates. Cuomo is basically saying “he will probably win” based on the sizable lead Mamdani has, but it’s not technically over yet.

aaron695 1y ago

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carabiner 1y ago

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dang 1y ago
Please don't do this here.