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“Manual” has a negative connotation. If I understand the article correctly, they mean “human coding remains key”. It’s not clear to me the GitHub CEO actually u

“Manual” has a negative connotation. If I understand the article correctly, they mean “human coding remains key”. It’s not clear to me the GitHub CEO actually used the word “manual”, that would surprise me. Is there another source on this that’s either more neutral or better at choosing accurate words? The last thing we need is to put down human coding as “manual”; human coders have a large toolbox of non-AI tools to automate their coding. (Wow I sound triggered! sigh)

upghost 1y ago
It's almost as bad as "manual" thinking!
vram22 1y ago
>Manual” has a negative connotation. If I understand the article correctly, they mean “human coding remains key”. A man is a human.
- layer8 1y ago
  Humanual coding? ;) “Manual” comes from Latin manus, meaning “hand”: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/manus https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/manus. It literally means “by hand”.
  - vram22 1y ago
    Nice one :) I too can sling a bit of Latin. ;) Here is one phrase, in which one word, malus, is like an off-by-one error from your manus word, so to speak :) : nemo malus nisi probetur https://www.google.com/search?q=nemo+malus+nisi+probetur https://www.google.com/search?q=nemo+malus+nisi+probetur From the AI overview (need to at least try that out a few times after all the talk about Google enshittification like by Cory Doctorow in this year's PyCon US keynote: >Nemo malus nisi probetur" is a Latin legal maxim that translates to "No one is evil unless proven." It signifies that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. This principle is fundamental to legal systems that value fairness and due process, ensuring that accusations are substantiated before a person is considered culpable. Here's a breakdown of the phrase: Nemo: No one malus: Evil, bad, wicked nisi: Unless probetur: Is proven, is shown, is demonstrated The maxim essentially means that one should not be treated as inherently bad or guilty without sufficient evidence. This principle is closely related to the concept of "presumption of innocence" and is crucial for upholding justice and protecting individual rights.
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anamexis 1y ago
What is the distinction between manual coding and human coding?
- jdiff 1y ago
  Often when you're calling something "manual" you're taking something off the automated happy path to tediously and slowly wind the thing through its complex process by hand. The difference between manual coding and human coding is tedium and laboriousness. It's not laborious to program, but the phrase "manual coding" evokes that image.
  - skydhash 1y ago
    Maybe that’s what they’ve been doing? No one using Vim, Emacs, or Unix as an IDE would say they do manual coding with the amount of automation that usually goes there.
    - aeonik 1y ago
      Indeed, if your not using butterflies to program, it's not manual, and your not a real programmer https://xkcd.com/378/ https://xkcd.com/378/
GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
> Wow I sound triggered! sigh this is okay! it's a sign of your humanity :)
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layer8 1y ago
How about “organic coding”? ;)
dalyons 1y ago
Acoustic coding
ivanjermakov 1y ago
Analog coding
mrheosuper 1y ago
"Authentic" maybe ?
bluefirebrand 1y ago
> “Manual” has a negative connotation Wait does it? This is a new idea to me, in what way could "manual" have a negative connotation? Are people really that against doing things manually nowadays?

upghost 1y ago

It's almost as bad as "manual" thinking!

vram22 1y ago

>Manual” has a negative connotation. If I understand the article correctly, they mean “human coding remains key”. A man is a human.

layer8 1y ago
Humanual coding? ;) “Manual” comes from Latin manus, meaning “hand”: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/manus https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/manus. It literally means “by hand”.
- vram22 1y ago
  Nice one :) I too can sling a bit of Latin. ;) Here is one phrase, in which one word, malus, is like an off-by-one error from your manus word, so to speak :) : nemo malus nisi probetur https://www.google.com/search?q=nemo+malus+nisi+probetur https://www.google.com/search?q=nemo+malus+nisi+probetur From the AI overview (need to at least try that out a few times after all the talk about Google enshittification like by Cory Doctorow in this year's PyCon US keynote: >Nemo malus nisi probetur" is a Latin legal maxim that translates to "No one is evil unless proven." It signifies that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. This principle is fundamental to legal systems that value fairness and due process, ensuring that accusations are substantiated before a person is considered culpable. Here's a breakdown of the phrase: Nemo: No one malus: Evil, bad, wicked nisi: Unless probetur: Is proven, is shown, is demonstrated The maxim essentially means that one should not be treated as inherently bad or guilty without sufficient evidence. This principle is closely related to the concept of "presumption of innocence" and is crucial for upholding justice and protecting individual rights.

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anamexis 1y ago

What is the distinction between manual coding and human coding?

jdiff 1y ago
Often when you're calling something "manual" you're taking something off the automated happy path to tediously and slowly wind the thing through its complex process by hand. The difference between manual coding and human coding is tedium and laboriousness. It's not laborious to program, but the phrase "manual coding" evokes that image.
- skydhash 1y ago
  Maybe that’s what they’ve been doing? No one using Vim, Emacs, or Unix as an IDE would say they do manual coding with the amount of automation that usually goes there.
  - aeonik 1y ago
    Indeed, if your not using butterflies to program, it's not manual, and your not a real programmer https://xkcd.com/378/ https://xkcd.com/378/

GuinansEyebrows 1y ago

> Wow I sound triggered! sigh this is okay! it's a sign of your humanity :)

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layer8 1y ago

How about “organic coding”? ;)

dalyons 1y ago

Acoustic coding

ivanjermakov 1y ago

Analog coding

mrheosuper 1y ago

"Authentic" maybe ?

bluefirebrand 1y ago

> “Manual” has a negative connotation Wait does it? This is a new idea to me, in what way could "manual" have a negative connotation? Are people really that against doing things manually nowadays?