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User scripts have super wide permissions. For example a user script scoped to YouTube.com can make payments from any cards you have saved in Google pay. And

User scripts have super wide permissions. For example a user script scoped to YouTube.com can make payments from any cards you have saved in Google pay. And most user scripts are so long a typical user won't be able to spot a couple of malicious lines amongst 10k lines of minified webpacked libraries.

bmacho 1y ago
> And most user scripts are so long a typical user won't be able to spot a couple of malicious lines amongst 10k lines of minified webpacked libraries. Exactly! That's why you should use 3 lines for it instead, that are - inspectable - not updateable by the Chinese/Russians - written by you anyway
- danielspace23 1y ago
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  - Muromec 1y ago
    Critique and distrust of an (authoritarian) government is not racism.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - bmacho 1y ago
    I've chosen them as example elements of the larger group: people that would harm you. It's a type of synecdoche[0,1]. I was considering reformulating it, in $CURRENTYEAR there is always someone that claims that using Russian or Chinese as a synonym for 'enemy' is Russo- and Shinophobic. I've decided against it this time. [0] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche#Part_referring_to_whole_(pars_pro_toto) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche#Part_referring_to_w... [1] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_pro_toto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_pro_toto
  - add-sub-mul-div 1y ago
    Fear of people who look different or live on the other side of a line is having a moment.
rvnx 1y ago
You also have to weight the benefits versus the "risk". For example, if you use FreeTube with SponsorBlock to improve your privacy and block ads, in fact you are sending to Cloudflare 100% of your YouTube watch history, and to SponsorBlock ("sponsor.ajay.io"). With Piped instances it's even worse, essentially escaping Google's tracking just to give our data to random strangers. If you are worried, just run a second Chrome session with NordVPN and uBlock Origin in a loose jurisdiction and browse YouTube unlogged. It's easy, simple, and you have the benefits of an audited platform and that reasonably legally confirm they don't store logs unless the court forced them: "we never log their activity unless ordered by a court never log their activity unless ordered by a court", but for that, the court has to find you as a user, which can be very complicated in practice. So much better than random strangers.
- latexr 1y ago
  > If you are worried, just run a second Chrome session with NordVPN I feel like I’m on YouTube already. It’s not like they are free of criticism either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NordVPN#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NordVPN#Criticism
- HK-NC 1y ago
  I'm happy to give my watch history to some unknown in exchange for never ever seeing an ad.
- hashiyakshmi 1y ago
  >If you are worried, just run a second Chrome session with NordVPN and uBlock Origin in a loose jurisdiction and browse YouTube unlogged. If you actually did this you would know that it works for all of a week or two before YouTube stops letting you watch videos until you login.
  - Devorlon 1y ago
    I found that hopping to different VPN servers is a mildly inconvenient workaround for that.
- heavensteeth 1y ago

bmacho 1y ago

> And most user scripts are so long a typical user won't be able to spot a couple of malicious lines amongst 10k lines of minified webpacked libraries. Exactly! That's why you should use 3 lines for it instead, that are - inspectable - not updateable by the Chinese/Russians - written by you anyway

danielspace23 1y ago
[flagged]
- Muromec 1y ago
  Critique and distrust of an (authoritarian) government is not racism.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- bmacho 1y ago
  I've chosen them as example elements of the larger group: people that would harm you. It's a type of synecdoche[0,1]. I was considering reformulating it, in $CURRENTYEAR there is always someone that claims that using Russian or Chinese as a synonym for 'enemy' is Russo- and Shinophobic. I've decided against it this time. [0] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche#Part_referring_to_whole_(pars_pro_toto) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche#Part_referring_to_w... [1] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_pro_toto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_pro_toto
- add-sub-mul-div 1y ago
  Fear of people who look different or live on the other side of a line is having a moment.

rvnx 1y ago

You also have to weight the benefits versus the "risk". For example, if you use FreeTube with SponsorBlock to improve your privacy and block ads, in fact you are sending to Cloudflare 100% of your YouTube watch history, and to SponsorBlock ("sponsor.ajay.io"). With Piped instances it's even worse, essentially escaping Google's tracking just to give our data to random strangers. If you are worried, just run a second Chrome session with NordVPN and uBlock Origin in a loose jurisdiction and browse YouTube unlogged. It's easy, simple, and you have the benefits of an audited platform and that reasonably legally confirm they don't store logs unless the court forced them: "we never log their activity unless ordered by a court never log their activity unless ordered by a court", but for that, the court has to find you as a user, which can be very complicated in practice. So much better than random strangers.

latexr 1y ago
> If you are worried, just run a second Chrome session with NordVPN I feel like I’m on YouTube already. It’s not like they are free of criticism either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NordVPN#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NordVPN#Criticism
HK-NC 1y ago
I'm happy to give my watch history to some unknown in exchange for never ever seeing an ad.
hashiyakshmi 1y ago
>If you are worried, just run a second Chrome session with NordVPN and uBlock Origin in a loose jurisdiction and browse YouTube unlogged. If you actually did this you would know that it works for all of a week or two before YouTube stops letting you watch videos until you login.
- Devorlon 1y ago
  I found that hopping to different VPN servers is a mildly inconvenient workaround for that.
heavensteeth 1y ago