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Even if it is only set back by a few months, that is enough time to put pressure on Iran to abandon it altogether. Keep in mind, Israel has full aerial control

Even if it is only set back by a few months, that is enough time to put pressure on Iran to abandon it altogether. Keep in mind, Israel has full aerial control over Iran and has taken out hundreds of their missile launchers. We can keep pounding the various nuclear facilities and hinder ant chances of rebuilding, making any effort futile.

disgruntledphd2 1y ago
This would be a really risky strategy as it will push the Iranians into a corner with potentially large impacts on the oil price (which will change US public opinion).
- dotancohen 1y ago
  That sounds to me like the US seriously needs to promote non-petroleum sources of energy. If not for the environment, for their own national sovereignity.
  - dreghgh 1y ago
    The thing is, the United States is self sufficient in petroleum. But domestic prices will go up to reflect the effect on world supply. Arguably the same could happen given widespread use of non petroleum sources of energy. Prices will go up to reflect the marginal cost of hydrocarbon based energy, even if that use is minimal, until the point where the energy network is completely decoupled from those markets. This happened in the United Kingdom after the invasion of Ukraine. More wind was used as gas became more expensive. But the price of electricity from wind also went up.
    - chgs 1y ago
      US could ban fuel exports. Unlikely as rich people would suffer, but they may be placated with bribes.
    - disgruntledphd2 1y ago
      The UK increase was because of how the contracts work but yeah agreed in general. Sustainable energy is good for a bunch of non environmental reasons.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    The US is a net oil exporter.
    - spacecadet 1y ago
      Great for the wealthy!
  - spacecadet 1y ago
    Yeah, but good luck! Been trying to convince people of this for years...
Ygg2 1y ago
As Sun Tzu famously said: "You really should back your enemy in a corner and ask them for negotiations. Having someone's feet on hot coals really speeds it up. And if they break it, it's a case for using nukes against them. " Such advanced people, the Chinese are.
UncleMeat 1y ago
"Don't worry, we can just engage in a bombing campaign against a foreign nation indefinitely."

disgruntledphd2 1y ago

This would be a really risky strategy as it will push the Iranians into a corner with potentially large impacts on the oil price (which will change US public opinion).

dotancohen 1y ago
That sounds to me like the US seriously needs to promote non-petroleum sources of energy. If not for the environment, for their own national sovereignity.
- dreghgh 1y ago
  The thing is, the United States is self sufficient in petroleum. But domestic prices will go up to reflect the effect on world supply. Arguably the same could happen given widespread use of non petroleum sources of energy. Prices will go up to reflect the marginal cost of hydrocarbon based energy, even if that use is minimal, until the point where the energy network is completely decoupled from those markets. This happened in the United Kingdom after the invasion of Ukraine. More wind was used as gas became more expensive. But the price of electricity from wind also went up.
  - chgs 1y ago
    US could ban fuel exports. Unlikely as rich people would suffer, but they may be placated with bribes.
  - disgruntledphd2 1y ago
    The UK increase was because of how the contracts work but yeah agreed in general. Sustainable energy is good for a bunch of non environmental reasons.
- adastra22 1y ago
  The US is a net oil exporter.
  - spacecadet 1y ago
    Great for the wealthy!
- spacecadet 1y ago
  Yeah, but good luck! Been trying to convince people of this for years...

Ygg2 1y ago

As Sun Tzu famously said: "You really should back your enemy in a corner and ask them for negotiations. Having someone's feet on hot coals really speeds it up. And if they break it, it's a case for using nukes against them. " Such advanced people, the Chinese are.

UncleMeat 1y ago

"Don't worry, we can just engage in a bombing campaign against a foreign nation indefinitely."