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It would be great if we had a diplomatic agreement with Iran to monitor and limit its nuclear development! Oh wait, we did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joi

It would be great if we had a diplomatic agreement with Iran to monitor and limit its nuclear development! Oh wait, we did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_...

awongh 1y ago
Part of the reason it was cancelled was because Iran was still funding a bunch of proxy armies and still developing non-nuclear ballistic missiles?
- Aeolun 1y ago
  The US was angry Iran had a civilian rocket program?
- hackyhacky 1y ago
  That doesn't seem like a good reason to cancel the only thing stopping them from developing nukes. Of course they fund proxy armies, but that's a reginal problem that can be addressed through conventional means. Cancelling the Joint Agreement is a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. In particular, it was clearly an expression of Trump's animus to Obama.
  - awongh 1y ago
    For sure part of it is goading them into looking like the bad guys. Otoh, ballistic missiles eventually become a western europe/NATO security issue. Not exactly sure how close Iran would be to that, but that is an element of the situation.
    - acdha 1y ago
      Ballistic missiles are a problem but also why it would be better to keep them from having nuclear bombs to put on those missiles.
  - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
    Yep, the JCPOA was canceled because 1) Bibi has always wanted to go to war with Iran, and knew very well how to get the US's help to do it, and 2) Trump's ego can be trivially played by just saying it's something Obama got credit for.
- sundaeofshock 1y ago
  The main reason it was canceled is because Donald Trump is a petulant child and he wanted to erase all of Obama’s accomplishments.
- shihab 1y ago
  Even if Iran were arming regional proxies, that's an Israel problem, not an america problem. Though AIPAC et el makes sure no american is ever aware of that distinction.
- ugh123 1y ago
  So you agree they were not exploring nuclear weapons with that agreement in place?

awongh 1y ago

Part of the reason it was cancelled was because Iran was still funding a bunch of proxy armies and still developing non-nuclear ballistic missiles?

Aeolun 1y ago
The US was angry Iran had a civilian rocket program?
hackyhacky 1y ago
That doesn't seem like a good reason to cancel the only thing stopping them from developing nukes. Of course they fund proxy armies, but that's a reginal problem that can be addressed through conventional means. Cancelling the Joint Agreement is a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. In particular, it was clearly an expression of Trump's animus to Obama.
- awongh 1y ago
  For sure part of it is goading them into looking like the bad guys. Otoh, ballistic missiles eventually become a western europe/NATO security issue. Not exactly sure how close Iran would be to that, but that is an element of the situation.
  - acdha 1y ago
    Ballistic missiles are a problem but also why it would be better to keep them from having nuclear bombs to put on those missiles.
- sorcerer-mar 1y ago
  Yep, the JCPOA was canceled because 1) Bibi has always wanted to go to war with Iran, and knew very well how to get the US's help to do it, and 2) Trump's ego can be trivially played by just saying it's something Obama got credit for.
sundaeofshock 1y ago
The main reason it was canceled is because Donald Trump is a petulant child and he wanted to erase all of Obama’s accomplishments.
shihab 1y ago
Even if Iran were arming regional proxies, that's an Israel problem, not an america problem. Though AIPAC et el makes sure no american is ever aware of that distinction.
ugh123 1y ago
So you agree they were not exploring nuclear weapons with that agreement in place?