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I know these types of comments are frowned upon here, but I find it really sad that posts about video game sales, for example, have many more upvotes than a pos
by mykowebhn 1y ago
I know these types of comments are frowned upon here, but I find it really sad that posts about video game sales, for example, have many more upvotes than a post about positive efforts to reduce plastic waste. It shows where priorities and interests lie for the majority.
I comment like this because I understand that the struggle is not only to stop this kind of waste--and on a larger scale the environmental destruction of our planet--but also to engage and motivate the public at large to want to make these changes.
- jay_kyburz 1y agoI think it might be because this is a tech / start-up forum and not for all topics. Some of the most important issues facing us right now are simply not allowed and moderated before we even get to vote.
- Ray20 1y agoThis "struggle" leads to the erosion of institutions, their discrediting, and will end with the fact that in 50 years anyone who mentions ecology will be looked at in much the same way as Jehovah's Witnesses are now looked at. We wear plastic, we walk on plastic, we build and decorate with plastic, we drive with plastic. Fighting plastic bags is like fighting matches because forests are cut down for them, they emit CO2 when they burn, and they can start a forest fire. The only reason people tolerate with this is because they are dumb morons on average. But even dumb morons can't be fooled forever - and when society realize the extent of the lies and uselessness they've been fed with, good luck telling them even one thing about ecology, even if it's critically important, because they still remain dumb morons, only with zero trust in the ecology. So yes, definitely a good strategy to put the future of humanity and the existence of our environment at stake for tiny short-term political gains.
- mykowebhn 1y agoYou make some good points, but then what is one to do? I'm hearing from you that short-term efforts, especially ones with political aims, are, at best, misguided and, at worst, capable of exacerbating the ecological problems they are trying to solve. Do you see anything we can do right now to help save our environment? Also, are there any long-term things we could do that you'd recommend?
- userbinator 1y ago[flagged]
- padjo 1y agoWhich is?
- manojlds 1y agoThat we are all doomed anyway, I guess.
- userbinator 1y ago[flagged]
- padjo 1y agoYeah I read as far as “windmills” kill birds and that’s enough to rate the quality of the source for me.
- userbinator 1y agoKeep reading.
- padjo 1y agoWhy would I read biased junk from some random contrarian with an axe to grind? I know a lot about wind turbines but the biggest tell is that when someone calls them windmills they either have an agenda or are woefully misinformed.
- bluebarbet 1y agoWhy would I choose to get my information from this random website, which is clearly not a reputable source (or else I would have heard of it)? Have you considered the possibility that you're reading it and sharing it mainly because its author articulates your prejudices better than you can yourself? Have we - STILL - learned nothing about information hygiene in this era when anyone can quickly find an outlet online that tells them that they're right for thinking exactly what they already thought?
- yvklxrcv 1y agoI believe leisure is the end goal of all technology, so it makes sense that something advertising a form of end result is more appealing than another contributor to realizing them. Consider advertising sweetrolls versus more effective less harmful pesticide. The latter will contribute to the former, but the former is much closer to what you're likely actually interested in.
- keybored 1y ago> --but also to engage and motivate the public at large to want to make these changes. Are you raising awareness?
- thiht 1y agoYou can be judgmental all you want but I don’t think it’s controversial that video games are more interesting than plastic bags politics
- aaron695 1y ago[dead]
- bamboozled 1y agoIt’s not cool, seen was woke / soft / feminine to care about such things so “real men” don’t bother.
- harvey9 1y agoNo idea how you can motivate people. Glastonbury Music Festival has always been huge on messaging it's audience about not being wasteful but if anything the amount of abandoned camping stuff as well as general litter has been getting worse.
- matwood 1y ago> No idea how you can motivate people. As market driven as the US is, I'm surprised they haven't adopted more EU ideas to keep things tidy. The euro to get a shopping cart tends to keep parking lots clean. I went to an event in Germany once that had re-usable plastic beer mugs. 5 euro/beer with 1 euro back for the mug. They were also easily stackable, so if you saw a mug on the ground you would pick up. 5 mugs == free beer. Simple idea using money that kept the event relatively clean given the number of people partying.
- quickthrowman 1y agoThe only store in the US where carts aren’t a problem is Aldi specifically because a cart deposit is $0.25
- yupitsme123 1y agoThe deposit on cans and bottles in some states seems to work perfectly with little to no cost. I'm sure it could work with plastic bags.