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Yep, you were a test project. Will people pay for free content or punish them by leaving the platform. And will they start to pay if you increase number of ads.
by stiray 1y ago
Yep, you were a test project. Will people pay for free content or punish them by leaving the platform. And will they start to pay if you increase number of ads. Now they moved to next stage.
Anyway, not there yet. Frog is boiled slowly, slow enough that people dont notice until it is to late.
First they need to kill ad blockers tier. Then you increase number of ads to unbearable (they are already doing that) and get as much people as possible to paid content. Also market must be ripe enough, so there will be no more ships to jump. Then you will get ads, different tiers to pay, segmentation of content etc.
- anticensor 1y agoThey already discontinued the premium-only content (YouTube Originals, turned out the audience isn't fit for that).
- tempodox 1y agoExactly, it's the enshittification trajectory as explained by Cory Doctorow. Without laws and regulations that stop companies from doing that, it's inevitable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification#Examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification#Examples
- phito 1y agoSo what's your alternative if I don't want ads (content is not free to make), want the creators to be paid, and paying for premium is tempting YouTube to abuse pricing? (or so you say)
- matwood 1y agoI hear you, but I can only live in the now and not whatifs. I refuse to watch ads and will pay to avoid them. If a service I use makes that impossible, then I’ll no longer use the service. And there is more content in the world right now than any single person will ever be able to consume. I have zero concerns about dropping a service.
- stiray 1y agoBut you don't need to drop a service. You can keep it as good as it is. You just don't reward google predatory tactics by paying, as you are literally making YT worse.
- matwood 1y agoSo if I don't pay and I don't want to watch ads then what? I'm not going to jump through mental gymnastics to not pay creators and Google for offering the service. If you truly don't want to reward Google, then don't use anything from Google.
- stiray 1y agoHow did it work until now? Anyway, we both know that care for "creators" is "think of the children" thing, but I will play along: pay them using patreon (or, I have bought this: https://theduranshop.com/the-duran-gold-eagle-premium-t-shirt https://theduranshop.com/the-duran-gold-eagle-premium-t-shir..., triple time overpriced but they deserve it). For Google, don't worry. You have payed them, with your data, thousand times over. And if you stop providing today, your existing data will be exploitable for years to come. On top of it, by paying, you create a direct trail from watched video (data) to your account, from there to your credit card and from credit card to physical person. So you are giving them even more data. Anyway, if Google goes bankrupt, because of you, you can consider yourself a saint. Someone who has really done something very good for the whole planet and human society. I will lit a candle each day into your honor.
- Workaccount2 1y agoYouTube sucks because it works for advertisers, not users. If everyone just paid like you pay for anything else in life, YouTube would work for users, and be dramatically better. Unsurprisingly, the people who consume resources while giving nothing back are the ones making it suck the most.
- tshaddox 1y agoNot sure what you mean. I was a test subject? The test still seems to be ongoing after 10 years. I fail to understand how any of these alleged experiments involve me.
- carlosjobim 1y agoIf he had used YouTube premium for a hundred years you would still say the same? Ten years is longer than world war two lasted.