5 ms·

I'm more than happy to pay for Youtube Premium to remove ads for all the family and ensure content creators can monetize their work.

by pier25 1y ago

wao0uuno 1y ago
And because of people like you I can enjoy their services for free. Thank you.
BeFlatXIII 1y ago
Would you like a golden sticker?
2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago
Fuck that. My household uses Newpipe we don't pay for shit.
- otterley 1y ago
  Out of curiosity, what pays your own salary?
  - Aachen 1y ago
    I'm sure that's pure curiosity and not trying to make a point in a roundabout way...
  - debugnik 1y ago
    Not the same poster, but: Products and services that someone actually signed a contract to pay for. Google is free to not send me free video if they don't want to, I'm just connecting to their website using my browser. But the only reason so many creators are exclusively on youtube is the fact that anyone can watch there. Google tolerates my ad blocker to some degree (unlike other sites) because the alternative is losing market share and they know it. If creators feel cheated, they can ask youtube to stop serving their videos for free for its own interests. I'd like to see the status quo change actually.
    - globular-toast 1y ago
      Exactly. YouTube wants to have its cake and eat it too. YouTube would not be what it is today if it wasn't public and free at the point of use. Anyone is free to do something in private and ticket people for it. I'm doing a concert tonight in my home, it's 100 credits for a ticket, hope you'll come! I can't guarantee anyone will come, but I can guarantee anyone who comes will pay. There are platforms like Floatplane that use this model. Then there's the busking model. You do it in public. You can't guarantee anyone pays, but they'll definitely come, and some will probably pay. YouTube wants both. It wants to be the place where people busk (like the public square) but also force advertising on you. You can't have it both ways. Either go private or accept that this is public and I will do what I want with my browser.
      - debugnik 1y ago
        I love the concert/busking framing, I'm definitely using that from now on.
- yugioh3 1y ago
  Stealing from creators shouldn't be celebrated.
  - BeFlatXIII 1y ago
    The alternative is not watching them, not paying. Revenue is unchanged.
  - myself248 1y ago
    I support a _shitpile_ of creators on Patreon and Kofi and more. I subscribe to Nebula, and I get as much as I can from the creators' own pages on those services. I'm doing my best to move my viewing off of YouTube, and move the money off of YouTube, in hopes that it eases the creators moving off of YouTube.
    - eviks 1y ago
      But you'll invariably watch from a way way bigger shitpile of creators, so without some more efficient mechanism you won't be able to spread your support properly
      - wao0uuno 1y ago
        Google’s way of spreading that support is truly the most efficient (10s to 100s of millions per year right to the CEOs pocket).
        myself248 1y ago
        Had me in the first half...
      - myself248 1y ago
        This is a problem itching for a solution. I'm determined to find a solution other than Youtube.
  - inversetelecine 1y ago
    Ah, the old "stealing" line.
vjulian 1y ago
I find it hard to discern whether your post is sarcasm. Assuming it’s not, I’m surprised that someone is so cheerfully and voluntarily paying an extra fiat to the virtual landowner.
- bobsmooth 1y ago
  Video hosting is expensive. Making videos is expensive. You're not noble for stealing from Youtube or its creators.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - asadotzler 1y ago
    It's not stealing. It's using. I have no obligation under any legal framework to use their content the way they wish I would. Trust me, or pay a lawyer to learn the same truth at considerably more cost.
    - bobsmooth 1y ago
      You're legally and morally in the wrong. Just accept this instead of getting defensive. I pirate literally all of the media I consume but I don't think I;m in the right for doing so.
      - pixxel 1y ago
        [dead]
  - Lio 1y ago
    It's not stealing; no one is deprived of anything except rent. If anything the cost of making the video is sunk by the creator just once and then rapidily payed off. Once that happens it's just hosting costs and Moore's, Kryder's and Koomey's Laws are brining that down exponetially. Funnily enough though you never see the amount of avertising shown getting shorter to represent the lower costs involved eh?
climb_stealth 1y ago
Hah, this so much. For me it's worth the money for the family plan just to not be exposed to ads playing on family members' devices.
nicbou 1y ago
I create a different kind of content that Google used to train their AI and offer AI summaries. Those same summaries mean I will soon need to find another way to make rent.
ryukoposting 1y ago
I refuse to, because we all know where that road ends. YouTube pilots brief pre-roll ads for Premium users. Then mid-roll ads. Then longer ads. Then they open the floodgates. Google reliably acts with contempt for its users, I'm only responding accordingly.

I'm more than happy to pay for Youtube Premium to remove ads for all the family and ensure content creators can monetize their work.

by pier25 1y ago

I'm more than happy to pay for Youtube Premium to remove ads for all the family and ensure content creators can monetize their work.

wao0uuno 1y ago

And because of people like you I can enjoy their services for free. Thank you.

BeFlatXIII 1y ago

Would you like a golden sticker?

2OEH8eoCRo0 1y ago

Fuck that. My household uses Newpipe we don't pay for shit.

otterley 1y ago
Out of curiosity, what pays your own salary?
- Aachen 1y ago
  I'm sure that's pure curiosity and not trying to make a point in a roundabout way...
- debugnik 1y ago
  Not the same poster, but: Products and services that someone actually signed a contract to pay for. Google is free to not send me free video if they don't want to, I'm just connecting to their website using my browser. But the only reason so many creators are exclusively on youtube is the fact that anyone can watch there. Google tolerates my ad blocker to some degree (unlike other sites) because the alternative is losing market share and they know it. If creators feel cheated, they can ask youtube to stop serving their videos for free for its own interests. I'd like to see the status quo change actually.
  - globular-toast 1y ago
    Exactly. YouTube wants to have its cake and eat it too. YouTube would not be what it is today if it wasn't public and free at the point of use. Anyone is free to do something in private and ticket people for it. I'm doing a concert tonight in my home, it's 100 credits for a ticket, hope you'll come! I can't guarantee anyone will come, but I can guarantee anyone who comes will pay. There are platforms like Floatplane that use this model. Then there's the busking model. You do it in public. You can't guarantee anyone pays, but they'll definitely come, and some will probably pay. YouTube wants both. It wants to be the place where people busk (like the public square) but also force advertising on you. You can't have it both ways. Either go private or accept that this is public and I will do what I want with my browser.
    - debugnik 1y ago
      I love the concert/busking framing, I'm definitely using that from now on.
yugioh3 1y ago
Stealing from creators shouldn't be celebrated.
- BeFlatXIII 1y ago
  The alternative is not watching them, not paying. Revenue is unchanged.
- myself248 1y ago
  I support a _shitpile_ of creators on Patreon and Kofi and more. I subscribe to Nebula, and I get as much as I can from the creators' own pages on those services. I'm doing my best to move my viewing off of YouTube, and move the money off of YouTube, in hopes that it eases the creators moving off of YouTube.
  - eviks 1y ago
    But you'll invariably watch from a way way bigger shitpile of creators, so without some more efficient mechanism you won't be able to spread your support properly
    - wao0uuno 1y ago
      Google’s way of spreading that support is truly the most efficient (10s to 100s of millions per year right to the CEOs pocket).
      - myself248 1y ago
        Had me in the first half...
    - myself248 1y ago
      This is a problem itching for a solution. I'm determined to find a solution other than Youtube.
- inversetelecine 1y ago
  Ah, the old "stealing" line.

vjulian 1y ago

I find it hard to discern whether your post is sarcasm. Assuming it’s not, I’m surprised that someone is so cheerfully and voluntarily paying an extra fiat to the virtual landowner.

bobsmooth 1y ago
Video hosting is expensive. Making videos is expensive. You're not noble for stealing from Youtube or its creators.
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]
- asadotzler 1y ago
  It's not stealing. It's using. I have no obligation under any legal framework to use their content the way they wish I would. Trust me, or pay a lawyer to learn the same truth at considerably more cost.
  - bobsmooth 1y ago
    You're legally and morally in the wrong. Just accept this instead of getting defensive. I pirate literally all of the media I consume but I don't think I;m in the right for doing so.
    - pixxel 1y ago
      [dead]
- Lio 1y ago
  It's not stealing; no one is deprived of anything except rent. If anything the cost of making the video is sunk by the creator just once and then rapidily payed off. Once that happens it's just hosting costs and Moore's, Kryder's and Koomey's Laws are brining that down exponetially. Funnily enough though you never see the amount of avertising shown getting shorter to represent the lower costs involved eh?

climb_stealth 1y ago

Hah, this so much. For me it's worth the money for the family plan just to not be exposed to ads playing on family members' devices.

nicbou 1y ago

I create a different kind of content that Google used to train their AI and offer AI summaries. Those same summaries mean I will soon need to find another way to make rent.

ryukoposting 1y ago

I refuse to, because we all know where that road ends. YouTube pilots brief pre-roll ads for Premium users. Then mid-roll ads. Then longer ads. Then they open the floodgates. Google reliably acts with contempt for its users, I'm only responding accordingly.