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> Stop blaming technology for the way humans misuse it > Don't blame the tools. This is the worst kind of ignorance "Stop blaming [guns // religion // drugs /

> Stop blaming technology for the way humans misuse it > Don't blame the tools. This is the worst kind of ignorance "Stop blaming [guns // religion // drugs // cars // <insert_innovation_here>] for the way humans misuse it" There is a reason regulations exist. Too much regulation is detrimental to innovation, but some amount of standards is needed.

ilaksh 1y ago
Guns, drugs and religion are not equivalent to AI. I did not say there should not be regulation or standards. The point is that the whole diagnosis is wrong. People point at AI as creating a new problem as if everything was okay. But everything is already fucked and it's not because of technology it's because of people, their social structures and beliefs. That is what we need to fix. There are lots of ways that AI could help democracy and government in general.
- croes 1y ago
  And there a lots of ways to fuck the situation even more up. AI makes fake news in masses possible. You think the situation is bad? Let’s talk about that in 5 years.
- salawat 1y ago
  None of it outweighs the harms in the hands of provably malicious governments or corporate interests. Hell, the Western ideal of Government is only truly considered tolerable given the caveat that we're constantly cycling chunks of it out, and that it never becomes so efficient and automated that it can trivially operate without the consent of the governed.
jimmyjazz14 1y ago
> Stop blaming [guns // religion // drugs // cars // <insert_innovation_here>] for the way humans misuse it I tend to agree with this statement honestly.
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  Right? People say this as some defense for regulation, but it's the opposite. Everything that can, will be misused. USA has a lot of shootings - where guns are the most common on earth - big surprise? But when you get beyond the surface knee jerk, it's almost entirely gangs over drugs. Well, those things are already "regulated" so clearly there is a disconnect somewhere between freedom and being mad at the next thing in the chain - punishing everyone because someone might be bad. The adult take is that things do not have malice, people might, so address that because the world will never be regulated into safety enough for the people that don't get human nature.

ilaksh 1y ago

Guns, drugs and religion are not equivalent to AI. I did not say there should not be regulation or standards. The point is that the whole diagnosis is wrong. People point at AI as creating a new problem as if everything was okay. But everything is already fucked and it's not because of technology it's because of people, their social structures and beliefs. That is what we need to fix. There are lots of ways that AI could help democracy and government in general.

croes 1y ago
And there a lots of ways to fuck the situation even more up. AI makes fake news in masses possible. You think the situation is bad? Let’s talk about that in 5 years.
salawat 1y ago
None of it outweighs the harms in the hands of provably malicious governments or corporate interests. Hell, the Western ideal of Government is only truly considered tolerable given the caveat that we're constantly cycling chunks of it out, and that it never becomes so efficient and automated that it can trivially operate without the consent of the governed.

jimmyjazz14 1y ago

> Stop blaming [guns // religion // drugs // cars // <insert_innovation_here>] for the way humans misuse it I tend to agree with this statement honestly.

SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
Right? People say this as some defense for regulation, but it's the opposite. Everything that can, will be misused. USA has a lot of shootings - where guns are the most common on earth - big surprise? But when you get beyond the surface knee jerk, it's almost entirely gangs over drugs. Well, those things are already "regulated" so clearly there is a disconnect somewhere between freedom and being mad at the next thing in the chain - punishing everyone because someone might be bad. The adult take is that things do not have malice, people might, so address that because the world will never be regulated into safety enough for the people that don't get human nature.