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Going back to forums locked behind accounts would be a good first step.
by lee-rhapsody 1y ago
Going back to forums locked behind accounts would be a good first step.
- pajamasam 1y agoLike Reddit, you mean? Or with some extra authentication mechanism?
- burnt-resistor 1y agoSounds about right. Prove you're a real human through some sort of identification verification process. Probably would lead to better conversations, especially if each person could have only one account.
- ASalazarMX 1y agoNew AI service idea: this human doesn't exist, complete with plausible fictional ids. uh... for security awareness.
- ranger_danger 1y agoI am quite skeptical it would help. The majority of users on forums already aren't AI, and from my personal experience in the last couple decades on many different forums, there's already an abundance of egotistical, dogmatic god complexes around to make the experience insufferable enough already.
- vincnetas 1y agoAnd there also adversaries who are paid to post. Proper reputation system is needed to fight that.
- sunrunner 1y ago> an abundance of egotistical, dogmatic god complexes around to make the experience insufferable enough already. And you can find a curated list of these people on r/LinkedInLunatics, though I'm not sure the curation is necessary as it seems like pretty much the _entirety_ of LinkedIn posts are the kind that make you question whether the poster is human. There's marketing and building a personal brand, and then there's whatever the heck LinkedIn in 2025 is...
- burnt-resistor 1y agoPlease help translate the memes today for my gray hairs. I wound down my LI account around 2016 because it was 2-3 degrees to everyone with zero human-to-human I knew messaging. What has MS turned it into, a substack for business consultants and e-book merchants or something else?
- spacemadness 1y agoThey turned it into Facebook for self congratulating executives and wanna be temporarily embarrassed millionaire “thought leaders”. It’s insufferable and fuels capitalist cynicism like nothing else.
- tayo42 1y agoThey typical Instagram and Facebook comment section proves this wrong lol
- sunrunner 1y ago> Prove you're a real human Ah, so Worldcoin then?
- egypturnash 1y agohahaha god Reddit is fucking full of people who are clearly using AI to write or edit their posts, I get so many people trying to glaze me like ChatGPT does now and it's so fucking creepy.
- pajamasam 1y agoYeah, that's why I asked to get clarity on what exactly they meant with accounts.
- jay_kyburz 1y agoI imagine people will soon have AI post here and other logged in forums on behalf of them. Try and rack up Karma or build reputation.
- onemoresoop 1y agoI think some are already doing this.
- hinkley 1y agoI am unaware of any ways in which my stupid pile of karma has changed my life for the better. None of you see it, and doesn’t even change how dang behaves toward me when I’m hangry.
- onemoresoop 1y ago> Going back to forums locked behind accounts would be a good first step. How do you ensure the accounts aren't AI bots or people who scrap and serve it all back to the AI soup pot? The identity seems to be quite a problem online.
- JohnMakin 1y agoYes, and account creation automation is quite trivial in the majority of cases.
- selfhoster11 1y agoInvite-only, the way private torrent trackers still do it. Which has its own problems, but if you limit the number of invitees a given user can bring in and other such restrictions, it makes it practically impossible to for bots to make up a good chunk of the userbase.
- pajamasam 1y agoInvite-only sounds like a good idea. Especially if you need multiple people to approve invites. However, one or a few people might get greedy and add bots.
- selfhoster11 1y agoA lot of invite-only trackers solve that with a reputation system: if your invitees get banned, you also get warned or banned.
- hinkley 1y agoThe bots can avoid this by staying low impact. Farming data for AI training is rather simple. Vote brigading is also hard to track. In the same way advertising is money spent hoping for revenue, shaping the visibility of posts by your actually human coworkers and customers work similarly.
- ASalazarMX 1y agoForums worked (and still do) because they're small niches, like the budding Internet. As soon as they become big, they lose their sense of community, and become profitable to spam. So, maybe we have to choose between isolated human islands vs. an ad-and-SEO-infested world?
- pajamasam 1y ago> isolated human islands Good point. But how does one find these? Through word-of-mouth, I guess?
- ASalazarMX 1y agoYes, or exploration in the case of USENET or pre-enshittified social networks.
- skhameneh 1y ago> Forums worked (and still do) They worked and they often worked quite well. Unfortunately, many of those “working” forums I frequented are now inactive. It’s tough to visit some and see it’s been many years since the last post on some - and those are just the ones that are still online.