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I don't know, but if I saw my boss do a Nazi Salute, I would definitely lose passion.

by mempko 1y ago

have-a-break 1y ago
Problem is with the numbers 36. Everytime i see those related to cars or "random passwords" I know somethings going to happen. As a developer I'll manually change those numbers if and when they appear.
vjvjvjvjghv 1y ago
Or, more generally, if your boss's post on X make him sound like an insufferable asshole that has no self control.
- ethbr1 1y ago
  One benefit of being quiet is that people may assume you're more competent than you are. If you're loud, that collapses into a more realistic appraisal.
  - pantalaimon 1y ago
    Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
  - EdwardDiego 1y ago
    > Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. -- Most likely not Abraham Lincoln.
csours 1y ago
Yup. I have not experienced anything nearly this serious with a CEO, but I have had company leadership say and do very stupid things that reduced my focus on the corporate mission. Fortunately, they do still occasionally provide me with interesting puzzles (and they still pay me).
cyberlimerence 1y ago
Apollo worked out fine, so might not be much of a problem. /s
Gothmog69 1y ago
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- herval 1y ago
  Please get out of your bubble. It’s affecting your perception of reality. I recommend reading the book “they thought they were free” - before it’s too late (for those around you)
  - noworriesnate 1y ago
    Do you have a link? I’m always down for a good book. Here are a few you might be interested in: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/189903.books_for_escapism_from_this_capitalist_hell https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/189903.books_for_escapis...
    - herval 1y ago
      grab it before it's banned: https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.htm https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.htm
leoc 1y ago
Indeed, though rocket engineers have historically not been particular sticklers on that score.
- ethbr1 1y ago
  Ref: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro&t=17s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro&t=17s Turns out skillset usually trumps justice, as long as you're willing to make the right post-hoc mea culpas.
- LarsDu88 1y ago
  Von Braun went from burning through Jewish slave labor to build super weapons to Hitler to hosting TV specials on space travel with Walt Disney in Orlando Florida. Are we going to see the reverse progression with Elon?
- CamperBob2 1y ago
  Von Braun was just a geek who passionately wanted to work on rockets. He didn't worry much about what payloads they would carry or whom they would land on, just as people working at Meta or Palantir don't sweat those sorts of details. He wasn't so much immoral as amoral. As it happened, the only people willing to pay von Braun to build rockets were Nazis, so (shrug) Nazis it was. If the Americans had recruited him in the 1930s, he would have become a loyal American and a credit to his adopted country, just as he ended up doing after the war. If Stalin had been willing to sponsor him, well, he'd have raised the red banner and become a loyal Communist. There was never any point in prosecuting von Braun as a Nazi, or even thinking of him as one. Treating him as a war criminal, even though he technically was one, would have been a pointless, performative waste of badly-needed talent, like destroying captured V2s instead of studying them. Elon Musk? He has no such excuse. Musk can be anything, do anything, say anything. He came to America early and made his fortune doing things that a lot of us respected and even envied him for. Then he chose to attach his name to far-right causes, throw Nazi salutes, and do the Kraft durch Freude dance at Trump rallies. Turned out Musk didn't care about building rockets or going to Mars quite so much as he cared about being an immature asshole. In that sense he took a path diametrically opposite that of Wernher von Braun. So, yeah, if I worked for SpaceX, I wouldn't exactly bust my ass to make the leader's vision happen after losing trust in the integrity of said leader. I'd simply leave and find employment elsewhere, leaving behind people with fewer options.
shthed 1y ago
I used to be a huge elon fan, watched spacex rocket development daily, livestream all of the launches, watched many of his interviews, very impressed by tesla, selfdriving, starlink, optimus, neuralink.. he came off as a very skilled engineer. however.. when he started spamming political misinformation on twitter i had to block him. very concerned he was burnt out and brainwashed into into politics. the nazi salute, then making nazi jokes about it, was just insane. doge is a joke, he lost the plot. now i barely check updates on whats happening at starbase, cheer on when the rockets explode, couldn't care less about tesla.. it's a real shame. all that great work by thousands of talented people in his companies.. he needs to resign from everything and go hide under a rock for a few years until he finally gets into orbit and burns up on rentry.
- helge9210 1y ago
  The pattern "I used to be [...] fan, but|however|... because of [...] I'm not anymore" is like em dash in the world of propaganda.
  - EdwardDiego 1y ago
    Or, wild idea, people change their opinions based on new information. The propagandist monsters!
    - helge9210 1y ago
      Expressing new opinion is OK. Expressing a change of opinion in the format "Before ..., but now opposite after ..." smells like propaganda.
- noworriesnate 1y ago
  Children need heroes to look up to, I’m glad that children of right wingers can look up to him but who do children of left wingers have to look up to? Jeff Bezos is hardly inspiring.
  - vjvjvjvjghv 1y ago
numpad0 1y ago
Pathetic one while at it. He didn't start it from "attention" posture, and the jacket wasn't the kind designed for a salute(of that kind or not). Not to be a Nazi, but I bet that doing would have made even lots of them walk away.

I don't know, but if I saw my boss do a Nazi Salute, I would definitely lose passion.

by mempko 1y ago

I don't know, but if I saw my boss do a Nazi Salute, I would definitely lose passion.

Problem is with the numbers 36. Everytime i see those related to cars or "random passwords" I know somethings going to happen. As a developer I'll manually change those numbers if and when they appear.

vjvjvjvjghv 1y ago

Or, more generally, if your boss's post on X make him sound like an insufferable asshole that has no self control.

ethbr1 1y ago
One benefit of being quiet is that people may assume you're more competent than you are. If you're loud, that collapses into a more realistic appraisal.
- pantalaimon 1y ago
  Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.
- EdwardDiego 1y ago
  > Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. -- Most likely not Abraham Lincoln.

csours 1y ago

Yup. I have not experienced anything nearly this serious with a CEO, but I have had company leadership say and do very stupid things that reduced my focus on the corporate mission. Fortunately, they do still occasionally provide me with interesting puzzles (and they still pay me).

cyberlimerence 1y ago

Apollo worked out fine, so might not be much of a problem. /s

Gothmog69 1y ago

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herval 1y ago
Please get out of your bubble. It’s affecting your perception of reality. I recommend reading the book “they thought they were free” - before it’s too late (for those around you)
- noworriesnate 1y ago
  Do you have a link? I’m always down for a good book. Here are a few you might be interested in: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/189903.books_for_escapism_from_this_capitalist_hell https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/189903.books_for_escapis...
  - herval 1y ago
    grab it before it's banned: https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.htm https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.htm

leoc 1y ago

Indeed, though rocket engineers have historically not been particular sticklers on that score.

ethbr1 1y ago
Ref: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro&t=17s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ9HrZq7Ro&t=17s Turns out skillset usually trumps justice, as long as you're willing to make the right post-hoc mea culpas.
LarsDu88 1y ago
Von Braun went from burning through Jewish slave labor to build super weapons to Hitler to hosting TV specials on space travel with Walt Disney in Orlando Florida. Are we going to see the reverse progression with Elon?
CamperBob2 1y ago
Von Braun was just a geek who passionately wanted to work on rockets. He didn't worry much about what payloads they would carry or whom they would land on, just as people working at Meta or Palantir don't sweat those sorts of details. He wasn't so much immoral as amoral. As it happened, the only people willing to pay von Braun to build rockets were Nazis, so (shrug) Nazis it was. If the Americans had recruited him in the 1930s, he would have become a loyal American and a credit to his adopted country, just as he ended up doing after the war. If Stalin had been willing to sponsor him, well, he'd have raised the red banner and become a loyal Communist. There was never any point in prosecuting von Braun as a Nazi, or even thinking of him as one. Treating him as a war criminal, even though he technically was one, would have been a pointless, performative waste of badly-needed talent, like destroying captured V2s instead of studying them. Elon Musk? He has no such excuse. Musk can be anything, do anything, say anything. He came to America early and made his fortune doing things that a lot of us respected and even envied him for. Then he chose to attach his name to far-right causes, throw Nazi salutes, and do the Kraft durch Freude dance at Trump rallies. Turned out Musk didn't care about building rockets or going to Mars quite so much as he cared about being an immature asshole. In that sense he took a path diametrically opposite that of Wernher von Braun. So, yeah, if I worked for SpaceX, I wouldn't exactly bust my ass to make the leader's vision happen after losing trust in the integrity of said leader. I'd simply leave and find employment elsewhere, leaving behind people with fewer options.

shthed 1y ago

I used to be a huge elon fan, watched spacex rocket development daily, livestream all of the launches, watched many of his interviews, very impressed by tesla, selfdriving, starlink, optimus, neuralink.. he came off as a very skilled engineer. however.. when he started spamming political misinformation on twitter i had to block him. very concerned he was burnt out and brainwashed into into politics. the nazi salute, then making nazi jokes about it, was just insane. doge is a joke, he lost the plot. now i barely check updates on whats happening at starbase, cheer on when the rockets explode, couldn't care less about tesla.. it's a real shame. all that great work by thousands of talented people in his companies.. he needs to resign from everything and go hide under a rock for a few years until he finally gets into orbit and burns up on rentry.

helge9210 1y ago
The pattern "I used to be [...] fan, but|however|... because of [...] I'm not anymore" is like em dash in the world of propaganda.
- EdwardDiego 1y ago
  Or, wild idea, people change their opinions based on new information. The propagandist monsters!
  - helge9210 1y ago
    Expressing new opinion is OK. Expressing a change of opinion in the format "Before ..., but now opposite after ..." smells like propaganda.
noworriesnate 1y ago
Children need heroes to look up to, I’m glad that children of right wingers can look up to him but who do children of left wingers have to look up to? Jeff Bezos is hardly inspiring.
- vjvjvjvjghv 1y ago

numpad0 1y ago

Pathetic one while at it. He didn't start it from "attention" posture, and the jacket wasn't the kind designed for a salute(of that kind or not). Not to be a Nazi, but I bet that doing would have made even lots of them walk away.