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> your browser shares a surprising amount of information, like your screen resolution, time zone, device model and more. When combined, these details create a “fingerprint” that’s often unique to your browser. Unlike cookies — which users can delete or block — fingerprinting is much harder to detect or prevent.
Ironically, the more fine tuned and hardened your device, OS, and browser are for security and privacy, the worse your fingerprint liability becomes.
more idle thoughts - it's strange and disappointing that in the vast space and history of FOSS tools, a proper open source browser never took off. I suppose monopolizing from the start was too lucrative to let it be free. Yet there really is little recourse for privacy enthusiasts. I've entertained the idea of using my own scraper, so I can access the web offline, though seems like more trouble than its worth.
- jcranmer 1y ago> it's strange and disappointing that in the vast space and history of FOSS tools, a proper open source browser never took off. What makes you disqualify Firefox from being a "proper open source browser"?
- bronson 1y agoFirefox never took off.
- diggan 1y agoAt one point, Firefox (3.5 specifically) was #1, for a brief moment: > Between mid-December 2009 and February 2010, Firefox 3.5 was the most popular browser (when counting individual browser versions) according to StatCounter, and as of February 2010 was one of the top 3 browser versions according to Net Applications. Both milestones involved passing Internet Explorer 7, which previously held the No. 1 and No. 3 spots in popularity according to StatCounter and Net Applications, respectively - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.5 Then Chrome appeared and flattened both IE and Firefox.
- doublerabbit 1y agolol, and I used neither. Opera all the way until...
- GenerocUsername 1y agoDefine taking off then. Everyone knows Firefox and some people even like it
- arp242 1y agoMillions of people use it. What's the latest usage number? 5% or something? There's 5 billion people on the internet. 5% of that is 250 million. Some companies would kill for user numbers like that. Hell, some would slaughter entire villages.
- disambiguation 1y agoFOSS is a flexible term but carries the connotation of community ownership, and therefore independence from for-profit interests. That was an original selling point of FF, and to this day the user base is mainly comprised of individuals (who were at one point or another) seeking free and open alternatives. Sadly Mozilla as an organization has made increasingly user hostile decisions (deals with Google, recent changes in privacy policy, some telemetry on by default) and FF no longer lives up to the original promise. But yes, thanks to the code being open source there are off-shoots like LibreWolf and WaterFox that may be worthwhile (I haven't vetted them) but its the same dilemma as with chrome, the upstream code is captured and controlled by an organization that I don't trust to respect user privacy.
- XorNot 1y agoThis is just making better the enemy of best. In reality people espouse this opinion then continue using Chrome or Chromium browsers.
- disambiguation 1y agosee original comment: > Yet there really is little recourse for privacy enthusiasts
- energywut 1y ago> FOSS is a flexible term but carries the connotation of community ownership, and therefore independence from for-profit interests. That's certainly not true. Unless Red Hat, MongoDB, Chef, etc. are not open source. While I love to believe that the FOSS world is an anarchist utopia that believes in wellbeing for all, I think there are plenty of profit driven people there. They just don't sell access to the code/software.
- nuker 1y ago> What makes you disqualify Firefox from being a "proper open source browser"? - June 2024. Mozilla acquires Anonym, an ad metrics firm. - July 2024. Mozilla adds Privacy-Preserving Attribution (PPA), feature is enabled by default. Developed in cooperation with Meta (Facebook). - Feb 2025. Mozilla updates its Privacy FAQ and TOS. "does not sell data about you." becomes "... in the way that most people think about it".
- codedokode 1y agoYes "PPA" is absolutely shady, it is a browser cooperating with ad companies behind user's back. I do not understand why I need this on my computer.
- ec109685 1y agoIn two separate private browser windows, I was identified as unique, so does that mean a fingerprint across private browser tabs would not work?
- disambiguation 1y agoI think its matter of "least common denominator" as in the sum of all fields will surely be unique, but what's the _minimum_ number of fields needed to isolate one user? You can download the JSON from each test and compare the diffs yourself - there's a lot of noise from "cpt" and "ratio" fields, but some that stand out are "referer" and "cookie" fields as well as a few SSL attributes. Not sure if controlling for those is all it takes to de-anonymize, but either way it's not great.
- everdrive 1y agoIf you have Firefox with "resist fingerprinting" enabled then you are feeding it some dummy data. People worry about the fact that this might make you "unique," but fail to grasp that if you look differently unique every time you're not necessarily identifiable.
- ohso4 1y ago> Ironically, the more fine tuned and hardened your device, OS, and browser are for security and privacy, the worse your fingerprint liability becomes. 1. You could (however, I doubt the effectiveness) use something like brave which tries to randomize your fingerprint. 2. You could "blend in with the crowd" and use tor.
- Liquix 1y ago2. is almost immediately fingerprintable even with JS enabled. 0.00% similarity for canvas, 0.09% similarity for font list, 0.39% for "Navigator properties", 0.57% for useragent. with JS disabled (best practices for tor) it's even worse. maybe this works for windows users? (debian, latest tor browser 14.5.3, no modifications)
- ohso4 1y agoif there's 0.00% similarity for canvas, then I think there would be some issue with the letterboxing. You shouldn't resize your tor window from 1400x900. Tor pretends it's windows, so I don't know why it would do that for the useragent. I've always used it inside of whonix, and when I tested it, it seemed like everything was fine. When you disable js you need to do so by setting tor to Safest. The font list should be spoofed by tor? Anyway, you can fix all of that just by using whonix and setting tor to safest.
- phyzome 1y ago"a proper open source browser never took off" That's... not accurate at all. Firefox was extremely popular at one point, and completely ate the lunch of everything else out there. (And then Google used anticompetitive practices to squash it, but that came later.)
- arkh 1y ago> then Google used anticompetitive practices to squash it Not exactly. Apple happened. Every "web designer" had to work on a macbook to be different like every one else. And firefox had dismal performances on those macbooks so said designers turned to the only browser with good tools and good enough performances: Chrome. Next time you're told "performances don't matter", remember how it can be a differentiating feature and could cost you your market share.
- jaoane 1y ago> Every "web designer" had to work on a macbook Sorry? Why? I must’ve missed that memo :)
- martin82 1y agoBecause working on Windows machines was a gigantic pain in the ass back then and Linux still kinda sucked as a desktop OS.
- robin_reala 1y agoAll the front-end devs I knew at the time switched to Macbooks after the Intel switch, because you could get a Unix-based machine that could run Safari and Firefox natively, and Internet Explorer in a VM. Chrome wasn’t even released at that point.
- IshKebab 1y agoGoogle didn't use anticompetitive practices to squash it. They just made a better browser. When Chrome came out it was significantly better than Firefox. That's why people switched. To be honest it's still better (at least if you ignore the manifest V3 nonsense).
- elric 1y agoWhat's surprising is that, over time, Firefox has done virtually nothing to reduce the impact of fingerprinting. Why on earth are we, in 2025, still sending overly detailed User Agent strings? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:139.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/139.0 .... There are zero legitimate reasons for websites to know I'm running X11 on x86_64 Linux. Zero. Why are Refer(r)ers still on by default? Why can JS be used to enumerate the list of fonts I have installed on my system? We need way more granular permission controls, and more sensible defaults. There are plugins to achieve this, but that's a big hassle.
- kube-system 1y agoBecause the users of web browsers expect compatibility. If one vendor unilaterally decides to stop supporting some browser APIs, the result isn't better privacy. The result is that people switch to other browsers.
- anonu 1y agoCutting down permissions will just make you more identifiable.
- anonu 1y agoGreat website. I'm surprised that even things like battery status are queryable. There's really no good reason to expose that.
- nasso_dev 1y agoNote that having a unique fingerprint becomes actually great if it's so unique that even after a page refresh you get a different one. Most browsers with fingerprint protections will for example introduce random noise in graphics and audio APIs.