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It really doesn't seem like you're trying to engage constructively here. Framework sells keyboards for the Framework 13 for ~$30. I can find a Surface Go on sa

It really doesn't seem like you're trying to engage constructively here. Framework sells keyboards for the Framework 13 for ~$30. I can find a Surface Go on sale for as low as $500. No, I don't think anyone's going to throw out a $500-$1000 device because it needs a $30 part and maybe 15 minutes of work (steps here: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Framework+Laptop+12+Input+Cover+Replacement/186327 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Framework+Laptop+12+Input+Cover...) and they could instead replace their laptop with a tablet for a mere $470 more.

dale_huevo 1y ago
> It really doesn't seem like you're trying to engage constructively here. So I'm not allowed to disagree? For the record: I think the Framework laptop, while a noble cause, is a foolish endeavor as executed and they will be out of business in 5 years. I'm assuming you've stocked spare parts because by the time you need a new keyboard, there is a chance they will be out of production (or out of business) and those parts, now rare, will be fetching $100s on eBay.
- ncallaway 1y ago
  > So I'm not allowed to disagree? For the record: I think the Framework laptop, while a noble cause, is a foolish endeavor as executed and they will be out of business in 5 years. :shrug: people said the same thing when I first bought my laptop 4 years ago. Parts are readily available today, and I expect them to be so in a year. If nine years after I bought the laptop I can't get a replacement keyboard, I'll be a bit disappointed that the project failed, but the laptop will easily be net-positive from a cost benefit perspective long before that
- nrp 1y ago
  I'll take the other side of that bet!
- Dylan16807 1y ago
  You're allowed to disagree with many aspects of repairability. When you suggest that a surface go on sale is "a bit more" than a replacement keyboard, you're just wrong. That's not an opinion. Also with the framework 16 replacing the keyboard actually is a minute. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Framework+Laptop+16-Inch+Keyboard+Replacement/169755 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Framework+Laptop+16-Inch+Keyboa...

dale_huevo 1y ago

> It really doesn't seem like you're trying to engage constructively here. So I'm not allowed to disagree? For the record: I think the Framework laptop, while a noble cause, is a foolish endeavor as executed and they will be out of business in 5 years. I'm assuming you've stocked spare parts because by the time you need a new keyboard, there is a chance they will be out of production (or out of business) and those parts, now rare, will be fetching $100s on eBay.

ncallaway 1y ago
> So I'm not allowed to disagree? For the record: I think the Framework laptop, while a noble cause, is a foolish endeavor as executed and they will be out of business in 5 years. :shrug: people said the same thing when I first bought my laptop 4 years ago. Parts are readily available today, and I expect them to be so in a year. If nine years after I bought the laptop I can't get a replacement keyboard, I'll be a bit disappointed that the project failed, but the laptop will easily be net-positive from a cost benefit perspective long before that
nrp 1y ago
I'll take the other side of that bet!
Dylan16807 1y ago
You're allowed to disagree with many aspects of repairability. When you suggest that a surface go on sale is "a bit more" than a replacement keyboard, you're just wrong. That's not an opinion. Also with the framework 16 replacing the keyboard actually is a minute. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Framework+Laptop+16-Inch+Keyboard+Replacement/169755 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Framework+Laptop+16-Inch+Keyboa...