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The intrinsic research and analysis behind this article are great. I’m having a hard time, though, not tripping over the obvious (tell me I’m wrong!) ChatGPT “p

The intrinsic research and analysis behind this article are great. I’m having a hard time, though, not tripping over the obvious (tell me I’m wrong!) ChatGPT “polish”. Multilevel tutorial outlines, bolded key points, “X is Y—not Z”, … I can’t articulate why it bothers me. Except maybe the implied assumption that the author’s real voice & style benefit more than they are harmed from being submerged in what is ultimately mathematically derived mush.

jlarcombe 1y ago
yes it's hard to understand why people feel the need to do this and I worry it's just going to become ubiquitous and ruin everything
isoprophlex 1y ago
I know why it bothers me. It's lazy. Just look at those telltale fucking bulleted lists. The same point, re-phrased slightly; the shit you thought was clever when you were 15 years old, bullshitting your way through a high school history exam. If you consider your writing bad enough to warrant a LLM fluffing pass, I consider it no better than the 99% of worse than mediocre, lazy, attention grabbing bullshit without real intellectual quality that pollutes the internet.
- kybernetyk 1y ago
  Yeah there’s also those people who aren’t native speakers. I tend to run ChatGPT over most stuff I write because while writing in English for over 30 years now I still can’t compare to a native speaker. Call it lazy but I think for the reader reading a rephrased LLM article is more enjoyable than trying to parse some borderline “Kauderwelsch”(German for gibberish) :)
  - 1123581321 1y ago
    I’m just one reader but I enjoy reading English from non-native speakers. There’s often a terse, wry or precise quality to it that native English writers won’t make the time for, since they can roll out so many idioms. Your translations are legitimate contributions to the English-language community.

jlarcombe 1y ago

yes it's hard to understand why people feel the need to do this and I worry it's just going to become ubiquitous and ruin everything

isoprophlex 1y ago

I know why it bothers me. It's lazy. Just look at those telltale fucking bulleted lists. The same point, re-phrased slightly; the shit you thought was clever when you were 15 years old, bullshitting your way through a high school history exam. If you consider your writing bad enough to warrant a LLM fluffing pass, I consider it no better than the 99% of worse than mediocre, lazy, attention grabbing bullshit without real intellectual quality that pollutes the internet.

kybernetyk 1y ago
Yeah there’s also those people who aren’t native speakers. I tend to run ChatGPT over most stuff I write because while writing in English for over 30 years now I still can’t compare to a native speaker. Call it lazy but I think for the reader reading a rephrased LLM article is more enjoyable than trying to parse some borderline “Kauderwelsch”(German for gibberish) :)
- 1123581321 1y ago
  I’m just one reader but I enjoy reading English from non-native speakers. There’s often a terse, wry or precise quality to it that native English writers won’t make the time for, since they can roll out so many idioms. Your translations are legitimate contributions to the English-language community.